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New Stats

Ranged Bow
80 - 121 Damage Speed 1.80
(55.8 damage per second)
+7 Stamina
Durability 90 / 90
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases ranged attack power by 36.

Still sucks tho, buy the repeater

Commentaire de 6160

Deadly in the hands of a Troll Hunter because of their bow specialization its the fastest of the high warlord range weapons.

Commentaire de kreghx

Honor system changed
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To get items , you dont need rank anymore but honor and AV, exemple: High Warlord's Battle axe requires 45,500 honor and 40 AV marks

The 2-h weapons , bow , gun , crossbow and epic armor requires : 45,500 honor and 40 AV mark.

The 1-h weapons , daggers , swords , daggers , maces, axes and blue armor requires: 22,500 honor and 40 Arathi Basin Marks

Later you can also go to arena and get arena points for better weapons but only at lvl 70 at lvl 1-60 you can only do practise arenas

Commentaire de maghaku

High Warlords Recurve vs HWL Gun/Xbow

When comparing the dps on both the xbow and recurve, they are exactly the same for an unspecced hunter, however if you are to go at all into the beast mastery tree and get improved aspect of the hawk, the recurve begins to pull ahead for dps. Because of the amazingly fast attack speed (1.57 with epic quiver, and 1.3 with epic quiver and serpents swiftness(BM talent)) the +15% attack speed from imp hawk will be up much more often giving it the edge on dps, especially in pvp due to the fact that it is quite difficult to get a cast off while someone is barraging you with this baby =p. However, there is a downside to this as well, the fast attack speed also means that you eat through your arrows at a much faster rate and have to take restocking brakes much more often and pay more for your arrows, thus making it a decision that is really personal prefference. But overall, from a mathmatical standpoint, the Recurve is able to out dps both the hwl gun and xbow.

Commentaire de 26646

Just 2 correct you the epic quiver or any 15% quiver will put you down 2 1.53. What I'm more intrested in is useing this thing in a raid. I have been thinking going like 41/20/0 and takeing the https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=27898 for my SS rotacion in raids.
But on the other hand I could go with this thing and 0/20/41. Now the question is does the extra agil/crit of the the survival spec make up for the 20dps lost on the gun. Anyone got a advice on this?

Commentaire de 42975

Faster weapons get a smaller DPS boost from haste or % speed increase than a slower weapon, not to mention this thing is too fast to squeeze off a steady shot with.

Commentaire de 81380

For white damage 10min+ bossfights this does equal dps even compared to a 66 dps 3.0 speed bow in the case of under 9% hit rating
in autoshots only measured over 100 shots with 3% hit rating i get :
recurve : 230 DPS
valanos : 230 DPS
(when i get a 23% crit average for those 100 shots)

obviously in case of steady shot rotations you loose almost half of the autoshot dps as you are intrerupting them with steady shots the result meing something like :
recurve: 480 DPS
valanos: 420 DPS

worth noting also is that in pvp against casters and hunters with a under 70 dps weapon this could work wonders paired with a 1.3 speed pet
a MM hunter could effectively interrupt casting and kill only with only with autoshots + arcane shot + pet dmg any unsuspecting caster or aimed shotting hunter.

Also other likely benefits are that improv ApH procs faster with this , +dmg scopes affect each shot ?!

The only lev 70 epic alternative to this speed is ATM a gun from BT Rifle of the Stoic Guardian (for lower levels Precisely Calibrated Boomstick and Hurricane)

Commentaire de 174032

which one is faster the crossbow or the bow ?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Ok all alliance dont bother to eaven say ya want this bow cos YA CANT HAVE IT.....you have your own bow called Grand Marshal's Bullseye so go look at that one instead...

Commentaire de Thottbot

When any ranged wepon comes to play speed can variy the Dps this is done to the hunters skills as the aspect of the hawk and the true shot aura bonus + attack power this is for just one shot so a slow shot will be bonused with the same amount, basic math then + the scope and you have the highest dps by far :D
that and in pvp interupts from pets can be stoped by any decent player (sleep. polymorph etc.) and if u are using aimed shot the playes ur fighting arent very good
the only real down side of using fast bows is the rate u go through your ammo so for long dungeon crawls you might want a slightly slower weapon

Commentaire de Thottbot

Fast bows/guns
+ More dps bonus from scope
+ More dps bonus from Improoved Aspect of The hawk since it would proc more often.
- Small Aimed shot crit

Preferable PvE, but not always in PvP.

Let me show it in simple math, using simple numbers (not realistic) :o)

Fast Bow
Speed) 1,
Dmg) 100,
Dps) 100

10min shooting = 600 shots = 600*7= 4200ekstra dmg with +7dmg scope

600/100*5= 30 shots will increase attack speed with 30% if you have improoved aspect.

30*8sec = 240second/600second with +30% attack speed = 240/10*3seconds with "normal dmg extra dmg" = 72seconds = 72shots with 100dmg +7dmg (scope) = 7704ekstra dmg.

Overall dmg with fast bow = 71904dmg

Slow bow
Speed 5,
Dmg 500,
Dps 100

10min shooting = 112shots = 112*7= 784ekstra dmg with +7dmg scope.

112/100*5 = 6 shots will increase attack speed with 30% if you have improved aspect.
6*8sec = 48second/600second with +30% attack speed = 48/10*3seconds with "normal dmg extra dmg" = 14,4seconds = 2,88 shots with 500dmg + 7dmg (scope) = 1460ekstra dmg.

Overall dmg with slow bow = 62244dmg

This numbers are not realistic, but I think I've made it clear that faster bows > slower bows, at least in PvE.

Edit: PvE, end game instances, you should not use aimed shot anyways, and at least not if you pull, which is the only time a big aimed shot crit would benefit in the overall dps.

Commentaire de Thottbot

K anyone who thinks 2 1handers is flat out more dps needs to realize you cant always stay next to a person for that continuous dps. A warrior who dual wields will only get a 1hander crit for 500 right after he charges before the mage blinks away, compare this to a 1400 melee crit with a 2hander. The attack speed is a moot point in that situation because you only get your initial swing, the same is true in other situations, what about when you aimed shot crit and multishot crit, and then they blink or run into your deadzone etc?

faster is definately better for pve, but for pvp it really depends on the situation. Id prefer slower for AV because I dont get noticed a lot more often and am able to sit back and aimed-shot and multishot people all day long unharassed. In wsg? gimme the fast one

Commentaire de Thottbot

As from now on this weapon rocks!

From version 1.10 .. slow weapons get nerfed compared to fast weapons ... you want dps not slow weapons!
Some weapon might be better but only if it adds to your crit/agi or other stats (since agi adds dps I guess you really want a faster weapon now too)

Commentaire de Thottbot

More misses per timeunit, but just the same % of shots, so doesn't matter if it's slow or fast.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Everyone who has been saying that the speed normalization has made weapon speed irrelevant, you are mistaken.

This is what was changed:

Say a weapon has 3.8 speed, which is the standard for a HEAVY HITTING melee weapon. If a warrior has +100 dps added through his attackpower, every normal swing of his will average at weapon damage +380 damage. 3.8 x 100 = 380.

The "speed normalization" makes it so that instead of the attackpower being multiplied by the weapon's actual speed, it is multiplied by the "normalized" speed for the weapon type. 3.3 is the 2hander normalized speed.

So, on instant or special attacks, the damage for our warrior would look like this:

weapon damage + (3.3 x 100)= weapon damage + 330

The weapon damage itself is unaffected by the speed normalization.

To use some real weapons for examples, I'll compare the Arcanite Reaper to Brain Hacker.

Arcanite Reaper
53.8 dps
153-256 damage range
3.8 weapon speed

Brain Hacker
56.7 dps
95-143 damage range
2.1 weapon speed

The brain hacker has the highest dps, so by the logic of those who believe that weapon speed is irrelevant for instant/special attacks, the brain hacker should hit harder on these attacks.

We'll use mortal strike as our special attack, assuming the warrior has +100 dps from his attack power, and assuming that the weapons hit for their maximum damages.

Arcanite Reaper:
256 + (3.3*100) + 160(mortal strike bonus) = 746 damage

Brain Hacker:
143 + (3.3*100) +160 = 633

Brain Hacker ends up hitting for over 100 damage less than Arcanite Reaper, even though it has a higher dps. Where does the difference lie? In the weapon's damage ranges! A slower weapon of the same dps as a faster weapon will have a higher max damage.

Therefore...

A weapon's speed is STILL AN INTEGRAL PART OF INSTANT AND SPECIAL ATTACKS.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Ok im not gonna run off a bunch of stats and numbers on y this bow is good but here is simple straight answer.
1) this is a good bow for high lvl instances because of the fast speed
2) this is not a pvp bow as the aimed shot crit will be alot lower then a slow wep.

so its that simple if u pvp alot after hittin HWL rank then get a nice slow gun or xbow for that nice 3-4k aimed shot crit. if u go thru instances alot u might want this nice fast bow. while ur crits arnt that much u crit more often, not to mention if u hav imp aspect of the hawk then faster the wep the more often the spell will proc.

happy huntin
-Gotharus lvl 60 Hunter Khadgar server

Commentaire de Thottbot

With the new patch, this bow is 22,500 rep and 40 AB marks of honor.

Commentaire de Thottbot

xbow vs this bow

Im a marksman hunter with the new talent tree. I'm reading about interupting casters, but I dont think anyone in PvP just sits and shoots autoshot do interupt. Most hunter ranged spells are instant. With the new talent tree hunters have silencing shot which interupts then silence casters which is far better for caster-killing then this bow. I say Xbow with marksman, but I suppose this bow could be good for BM if your doing arenas

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm inspecting someone with it right now and the dps is 55.8

Commentaire de Thottbot

in terms of looks, this bow obviously pwns, but, since im marksmanship specced, i believe my dmaage will be reduced a bit if i choose this one instead of the xbow...

plz confirm this for me. Ty

Commentaire de Thottbot

Not too many bows out there that are a caster killer like this one, but this bow can all so produce some great Concussive Barrage attacks off the Auto Attack.

Concussive Barrage 0/3
20 pt Marksmanship Tree
Your successful Auto-Shot attacks have a
2,4,6 % chance to daze target for 4 sec

Combined with new spell

Steady Shot - Rank 1

Requires Level 66
110 Mana8-35 yd range
1.5 sec cast
Requires Ranged Weapon
A steady shot that causes 100 damage. Causes an additional 175 damage against Dazed targets. 30% of your Ranged Attack Power is added to Steady Shot's damage.

OMFG that will be some nice Dmg
Only problem is the level 66 spell :( but I hope I can pick up a higher lvl fast bow by then.

Just a thought for future hunter builds

Commentaire de Thottbot

There's something I think people might be missing about high speed bows. The faster u attack the more u crit. That much is obvious, but what is not is how u can combine that with talents. Every time I crit, my pet gains 50 focus from "go for the thought" talent. 50 focus translates into 1 free lightning breath, which costs 50 focus. So every time I crit, I get to add 200 damage, or 400 if lightning crits. It would only work if u had that talent, and a pet like a windserpent who throws away tons of focus quikly, but it owns for me.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Aimed Shot sucks dude, i'm BM specced and have a LOT of agility, in 2 or 3 shots I do about 600 damage, whereas on a regular basis with Aimed shot I only do mid-500s, so don't even waste looking at aimed shot because that's how much it sucks

Search the Armory For "Thaskael" Vek'Nilash lvl 60 BE Hunter, then check my talent tree, I'd recommend everything I'm specced as, other than Aimed shot

And plus, I can get up to an extra 70% Ranged attack speed because of My quiver, Quick Shots, and Rapid fire all working at the same time, though I don't reccomend it because I usually pull aggro from my pet even without this bow., and without using rapid fire I generally pull the Ally Boss when all the tanks are raping him.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Regarding the 15300 Honor needed for this bow. I started at 4532 Honor on Thanksgiving and will end up at at about 16100 Honor (when the Honor updates it adjusts some from the projections). AV was double Honor this weekend...thats the way to go!

BTW, as a BM specced Hunter, this machinegun...I mean bow... will rock with the 15% faster quiver from the BGs (I forget which one), Aspect of the Hawk proc and hitting the RapidFire. I think that brings the attack speed down to about .75 or so.

Good hunting!

Commentaire de Thottbot

As of december 30 2007 you only need 20 marks and a little over 12k honor points : )

Commentaire de Thottbot

omg fellows this bow is only good untill you get steady shot cause you wont get a prober rotation with full dps using steady shot.

Commentaire de Thottbot

omg ppl this bow is so EASY to get all you have to do is get marks (which takes no time at all). and then just go on O in AV fer a long time. (all we do is fight on road and there is tons of honor in that). this bow is so easy to get so stopp saying its hard.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This isn't on the latest Model Viewer T-T

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Did u just buy all available rogue HW items to show em off?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

how u get 2 Requires High Warlord ? to use this bow ?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i dunno, i get most of my pve damage from aimed shot and once exp comes out noone will be doing a lot of pvping so maybe the x-bow would be better
that and dw the cleavers cause high damage x Raptor Strike = ownage

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Nerf his name plx :o OFFENDED :p
No comment to the bow, reroll a look you ^&*!-bow :<

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Please put the honor & tokens needed for all pvp items.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I bought this bow after the honour change, and Im kinda disappointed. Wish I had gone with the street sweeper. Oh well, I guess ill have to grind honour for another week. :)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

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Commentaire de Allakhazam

Since the Patch:: Calm Before the Storm - 2.0.1

The High Warlord Recurve Bow costs

22500 Honour Points
40 Arathi Basin Marks

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On a side note. Now that the Wicked Ammo has been introduced into the game at such a low cost, this bow with a decent build will give you some incredible DPS.

I personally run with a BM spec (20% speed increase on ranged)
Epic Quiver (+15% Speed increase on ranged)
+1 Hast on my head, legs and gloves. (+3% speed increase on range)

38% speed increase on a weapon that is 1.8 attack speed... 1.116 is my attack speed.

When my aspect of the hawk procs, (5/5 = 15% ranged attack speed increase)

0.846 Attack speed.

I chew through ammo like a freaking howitzer... but the costs is minimal now used to cost me 6g for 200 throium arrow... now it costs less than 3g for a complete quiver of wicked. Take in a quiver and some spares though if ya gunna roll this build!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Not sure I got the right bow. The dps isn't what I hoped it would be. But the attack speed (especially when oom) helps bring down allies in a hurry.

But I'd still get the HWL crossbow or HWL gun just to compare.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

ok wtf do you go on threads to insult people's names or do you like to insult the Vin Diesel?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

how do you people keep managing to get these pics on undead? God!

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