Soloing Kil'jaeden Mythic - a discussion about theorycrafting and optimization

Par Durendillehunt Dernière mise à jour : 14/06/2019 Changelog Patch : 8.3.7

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Rêves lucidesVideoIntroductionRequirementsArmageddonAspect de la tortueDétonation de flammeffroiFlammeffroi focaliséeGearAzeriteVisage impassibleRempart des anciensCouronne électrifiée de Rahu’aiChaperon du faucheur sombreSiphon de sangPuissance accablanteSpallières d’abomination amalgaméeTransfusion contaminéeHaubert du gladiateur sinistre en anneauxTrophée du chef de guerreOther gearGarde-crues de Fa’thuulPrisme réfringent incrusté de diamantsPierre de VideStats

haste: best dps stat (for me - stat weights are all over the place for BM hunters)

versatility: best survival stat

agility: more damage and more healing, but less worth than versatility

leech: not bad, but since BM hunters only benefit from about 40% of leech (insert joke about pets doing all the work), not worth it. You can increase its worth with mend pet, which is affected by leech, but if I use it on CD I lose about 1-2k dps due to GCDs.

Vivaneau épicéCœur sauvageHealingAbilities and itemsVisage impassiblePrisme réfringent incrusté de diamantsEnthousiasmeGuérison spirituelleGuérison naturelleSurvie du plus fortGuérison spirituelleCourroux bestialCourroux bestialBrouillard de rageAspect de la bêteAspect de la NatureratherPierre de Vide

use it right before impact, having the shield break in 2 seconds

use it at impact, since it immediately breaks my other shield and procs impassive visage. During the shield, my other shield starts stacking and my cooldowns come back

wait an opportune moment, right after an IV proc

On-use consumablesBouclier plasma miniaturiséPierre de soinsPotion de soins côtièrePotion de régénération côtièreBandage des abyssesStrategy

triple armageddon at start. The turtle on the first armageddon of the transition was non negotiable, and if I used turtle on the first armageddon, I had to do it on cast, losing 8 seconds of dps, and I had to delay the transition by about 10 seconds. With the triple armageddon, I could push the boss 15 seconds faster - and we'll see in the dps section that seconds is the greatest dps resource. Since the armageddons are far apart, survival was tight but doable with the right rotation.

I then used turtle immediately after the armageddon cast in transition. Since the next armageddons are far apart, it allowed me to only have a double armageddon afterwards. I also dpsed the boss a little, despite his immunity, to get my cooldowns and exhilaration back up.

the double armageddon wan't very hard to survive, since I had all cooldowns except the weakest (-20%, that I needed for later). However, during a certain period of time I couldn't dps the boss at the start, so no healing procs. This is also an example of me not being able to delay spirit mend - I needed it up for the next armageddons. And finally, due to the damage of his beams (50k) being full health for next armageddon required taking no chances - for example, I also turtled the dreadflame (circle), despite it probably not being worth losing 4 seconds of dps.

then came the difficult part, which is usually where I wiped: the triple armageddon. First, I made sure to go in at 100% health even if it took a bandage. Then delayed exhilaration and spirit mend - exhilaration so I had two, then spirit mend. I couldn't delay spirit mend more than about 20 seconds after the explosion, since if I did there would come a moment where I needed healing but it was still on cooldown. I used the shield on the explosion to make sure I didn't dip too low to have time to heal back. Then I had the issue of the heal and the trinket coming off cooldown at the same time. I chose to use the trinket first - timing it right after an IV proc - because I could delay the spirit mend until 15 seconds before the next impact (therefore having it available again in the middle of the dot) and use it during bestial wrath, maximizing my healing. Then came the usual wipe moment: I had all my healing on cooldown, and had to use the healthstone to hold on long enough. I was two ticks away from death - every crit, proc or even the +25% from the bestial wrath trait really counted, and so did every bit of healing I did during the first two armageddons - if I hadn't been at 88% health on impact (after healthstone), I would have died. After the heal got through, I had to focus on spending focus as fast as possible in hope to get exhilaration off cooldown in time.

after another turtle and getting back to full health while making sure I had spirit mend up for the next impact, I had a double armageddon. But the difficulty lied in the fact that I would get only 2 spirit mends and not 3 - which made it as hard as the triple armageddon, especially with only a healing potion left. I had to use exhilaration just to have enough health to survive the second impact, as well as the -20% defensive - I planned the timings of this defensive throughout the fight for the express purpose of having it here. I kept the trinket for after the heal had passed (+ IV proc). I could have exchanged the second heal with the trinket, but even after the big dot fades I had the little dots ticking for maybe 3 ticks - so having spirit mend up again was very important in case I ended up with 3% health (which would have been possible with one less proc/crit). The healing potion saved my life on the kill.

Reflet éruptifOuverture de failleTénèbres des mille âmesDamageTir acéréFrénésie dévoranteLosing damage

there is a moment where I used cobra shot instead of barbed shot, lost my stacks, and then to make things worse I used barbed shot, also losing that stack since the next charge was too far away

I lost line of sight or range of the boss at least 3 times, costing me about 0.5 seconds each

on berserk, I should have feigned death sooner after the turtle.

Increasing damageExecutionFrame of reference

First kill

Fourth kill

Difference

Raid dps

325 551

351 303

7,91%

Average per dps

22 207

25 093

13%

Theorycrafting

P1end

P1 dps

P2 end

P2 dps

T2 end

T2 duration

P3 end

P3 dps

19% try

02:23

26,64k

9:10

24,60k

10:53

01:43

13:08

27,70k

6% try

02:17

27,81k

09:16

23,68k

11:00

01:44

15:01

26,36

kill

02:10

29,31k

09:13

23,39k

10:25

01:12

15:03

26,98

Phase 1: I had pretty much mastered phase 1, and nearly always got the boss between 2:08 and 2:12. Managed a 2:06 once but it was probably RNG. So I'm going to keep the 29,31k dps as my realistic (non-rng) maximum.

Phase 2: I was focused entirely on survival here, in order to see phase 3 again, so even if I could dps more I'm not going to pretend that I would have managed it. Therefore, I'm going to take the best value between the tries with the final strat, 23,68k, since it's the value I proved I could do.

Transition 2: my transition was absolutely perfect. Ideally, you want to always be dpsing the shadows, with a 100% uptime of Illidan's buff. But you also need to manage the bumps - avoid falling off, but also have them bump you on Illidan to refresh the stack, or use Désengagement to land on him. So I'm going to assume I couldn't have done better, despite it only being my third successful transition.

Phase 3: unlike the rest, I had a massive amount of improvement possible in phase 3. I was at 23% after two minutes on the kill, while I was at 20% during the first try at that time. Given that that first try ended with me being blown off the platform by a Obélisque démoniaque, I triple checked every spawn - while I could have simply checked once. I also could have done a strategy using disengage by predicting the possible bump directions. So, to calculate what dps. Also, since my cooldown rotation is two minutes, then the 27,70k is an accurate representation of my dps over and entire cycle. But I did that without heroism or the potion. Therefore, I could definitively reach 28,70k, especially given what I showed in phase 1 with a full 2-min burst with hero/potion (and where I also lost a bit of boss dps due to the add). Add the fact that my main damage ability deals +50% more damage in phase 3, and we can confidently say that my maximum dps is 29k (especially since I have no need to focus on survival).

P1 dps

Time

P2 dps

Time

T2 time

T2 end

P3 dps

P3 time

Seconds gained

Kill

29,31

130

23,39

552

624

26,98

902

Optimum

29,31

130

23,68

548

620

879

2% increase

29,90

127

23,86

543

615

27,52

888

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Commentaire de Vikinng

Awesome thank you so much

Commentaire de struds

Congratulations, and thankyou for the thoughtful article :-)

Commentaire de Dauthus

I must have missed it, what spec was he using?

Commentaire de Cacarot

Any tips about the purple Orb pattern after KJ takes flight? I know there's 6 orbs. What is the pattern? Is it a set pattern? Does it change with each attempt? Is it set per lockout?

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