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Commentaire de 10743

There are only 2 pieces worth getting in this set: The shoulders and the helm. They are also some of the easiest pieces to get. The rest is replaceable by epics from Karazhan which are much better.

Gloves: Iron Gauntlets of the Maiden https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28518

Legs: Timewarden's Leggings https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29184
Or you could get the ones off The Curator if you like purples instead of blues, even when it's a downgrade.

Breastplate: Panzar'Thar Breastplate https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28597

Commentaire de Harbinger

So I am wondering. Whats the deal with ZERO blue socks on the set?

Commentaire de 2610

So, what does blade turning do? Is it a 200 rune or does it reduce incoming damage by 200 for 15 seconds. Please say the second or this is the worst bonus

Commentaire de 42544

As the guy before me has kindly said, the T4 Tanking set is next to useless if you dont believe in set bonuses. Personally i wouldnt bother getting more than 2/5 pieces, as the reduction in tanking stats involved in using more than 2 would greatly reduce your survivability as a tank. If your guild was capable of Magtheridon's Lair and Prince Malchezzar (last boss in Karazhan), i would reccommend equipping the Helm and Chest only. The shoulders (High King Maulgar - Gruul's Lair), legs (Gruul), gloves (5th boss in Karazhan) are a significant downgrade to the standard tanking loot from the bosses.

Here are the KZ equivalent tanking pieces:

Helm: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28593

Shoulders: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28743

Gloves: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28518

Legs: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28621

I hope these links have helped, dispute the trade off between T4 helm and Eternium Greathelm, but there are some great tanking meta gems out there, including: 18+ stamina, 5% stun, as well as +12 defense, and 10% chance on hit to restore 120 hp.

As for the dps version of T4, there is almost no equivalent for this set, there being little to no dps plate gear, the exception to the gloves: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28824 . Apart from that, you're stuck with dungeon normal/heroic loot. Thanks a lot guys, keep up the good work!

Commentaire de theuberone

what is the proc rate on the 2 piece set bonus, i have a 19% parry

Commentaire de 29963

The 4 piece bonus does not currently work with shield slam, however it is getting fixed in 2.2 (already on PTR) .

Commentaire de 78102

Another alternative to these T4 legs are the https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=33515 received from heroic badges. Chances are if you are clearing Kara and doing other heroic instances, it will not take you long to come up with the 75 badges. You do loose some avoidance but you do pick up the 3 gem slots and shield block (rating and value). Not a bad alternative imo.

Commentaire de 155265

For fashion, here they are, the missing boots, bracers, and belt. Stats go with them as well. All from Kara.

Belt :
Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable - Moroes

Bracers:
Vambraces of Courage - Attumen the Huntsman

Boots:
Boots of Elusion - Random Trash Drop
or
Battlescar Boots - Dust Covered Chest, Chess Event

Commentaire de FinnrSlayer

Tier 4 For Dummies!(Where they drop)
Head Piece - Karazhan - Prince Malchezaar
Gloves Piece - Karazhan - The Curator
Shoulders Piece - Gruul's Lair - High King Maulgar
Leggings Piece - Gruul's Lair - Gruul The Dragonkiller
Chest Piece - Magtheridon's Lair - Magtheridon

______ of The Fallen Champion - Shaman - Rogue - Paladin
______ of The Fallen Defender - Druid - Warrior - Priest
______ of The Fallen Hero - Warlock - Hunter - Mage

Curator/Prince Malchezaar drops 1 of above
High King Maulgar/Gruul/Magtheridon drops 3 of above, totally random

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at aldor/scryers tier in shattrath city

Commentaire de 33684

This is how the various T4 tanking items stack up against others in the 2.4 environment.

Chest -
Better than Panzar'thar. Next upgrade is either the 100 badge chest or the one off ZJ. Chestplate of Stoicism has more ilevel than the ZJ one but that one has hit, so it's a matter of what you need more. Since I got this chest fairly early I upgraded my other pieces(75 badge belt, 100 badge legs) before buying Stoicism, simply because they were bigger upgrades.

Helm -
Better than the one off opera or badges. Next upgrade would be either the engineering goggles if you are one, or the helm off hex-lord. One of the better pieces of T4.

Hands -
Despite the higher ilevel, the maiden gloves are generally considered superior because of it's coveted block value and flexability with sockets. Next upgrade to either of the above are the rarely bought but underrated 60 badge Bonefist gauntlets or T5 off Leotheras.

Legs-
As above, the lower ilevel wrynn dynasty are considered superior due to the sheer amount of stamina you can stack with them. Next upgrade are the Unwavering legs (75 badges) or the Sunguard 100 badge legs. Strongly suggested you forgo the 75 badge piece and go with the Sunguard.

Shoulders-
Superior to the Netherspite ones. Next upgrade are T5 off loot reaver or Stone Resolves off ZA first timed chest.

Final verdict:
While the 4 set bonus is nice, T4 has too much stat wastage on str to compete. If you want the 2 set bonus, either Helm/chest or Helm/shoulders will probably be your 2 longest lasting pieces.

Commentaire de Thottbot

wow, with this much armor, + defence and + shield block, warriors will literally take almost no melee damage, ever.... maybe i should make a warrior lol

Commentaire de Thottbot

Warriors are teh ownage... PERIOD :D

Commentaire de Thottbot

note the set bonus...

"Your have a chance each time you parry to gain Blade Turning, abosorbing 200 damage for 15 sec."

I cant help but notice we have some champion spellers in the room.

Commentaire de Thottbot

+ Agility is also + Armour
although how much requires more Thotting

Makes me want to start playing my warrior again. Just need to find a good guild..

Commentaire de Thottbot

Glove tokens drop from The Curator in Karazhan.
Helmet tokens drops from Prince Malchezaar in Karazhan.
Shoulder token drops from High King Maulgar in Gruul's Lair.
Legging token drops from Gruul the Dragonkiller in Gruul's Lair.
Chest token drops from Magtheridon in Magtheridon's Lair. (Unconfirmed)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Warbringer Armor

.	Armor..	Sta..	Str..	Agi..	Def..	BLR..	BLV..	Dod..	Par..	+Hit..
Chest	1329	42	14	14	18	20	39	.	.	.
.	28	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Head	1080	47	13	14	21	15	33	.	.	.
.	28	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Hands	831	34	14	17	20	.	.	.	26	.
.	34	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Legs	1163	49	21	20	29	.	.	31	.	.
.	40	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Shoulder	997	34	11	12	14	.	.	23	.	.
.	24	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.
Total	5554	206	73	77	102	35	72	54	26	0

Dreadnaught Battlegear

.	Armor..	Sta..	Str..	Agi..	Def..	BLR..	BLV..	Dod..	Par..	+Hit..
Chest	1172	43	21	.	20	.	.	12	.	20
Head	913	45	21	.	21	.	.	12	.	.
Hands	702	27	17	.	13	13	21	.	.	.
Legs	983	37	23	.	19	.	32	12	.	.
Shoulder	825	29	16	.	13	.	21	.	.	10
Total	4595	181	98	0	86	13	74	36	0	30

Warbringer has more armor, more stamina, more agility, more defense, more block rating, more dodge, and more parry.

Dreadnaught has more strength, more block value, and more +hit.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Alright.. for all you people that fail to notice something. Dreadnaught is a 9 piece set. Warbringer is 5/FIVE pieces. Which means you get 4 other random items you get to use.... which means more stats! That and sockets would mean far more stats and other things than what Dreadnaught has to offer. Because im lazy i wont relay this message to everyone else that frowns upon tier 5 for less stats and such, but hopefully they will read this.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Wow ! Looks like something out of Half-Life 2 Lol. That justifies wanting it over anything else.

This game is purely about looks. Stats is nothing if you look stupid Lolzorize.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Hi

Can someone plz wright where i find the Tokens for Tier Raid 4...

And from who they drops...

Commentaire de Thottbot

Lazy bastard.

Glove tokens drop from The Curator in Karazhan.

Helm tokens drop from Prince Malchezzar in Karazhan.

Shoulder tokens drop from High King Maulgar in Gruul's Lair.

Legging tokens drop from Gruul in Gruul's Lair.

Breastplate tokens drop from Magtheridon in Magtheridon's Lair.

There are also boots, belts, and bracers with the Tier 4 model that drop in Karazhan.

Vambraces of Courage drop from Attumen the Huntsman.

Crimson Girdle of the Indomitable drops from Moroes.

Battlescar Boots are from the chest gotten from beating the Chess Event.

I've come into possesion of all these items at one time or another.

Commentaire de Thottbot

so to get the helm, you have to talk to the guy in karazan?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Do a little research. You don't simple "talk" to someone to get tier anything. You gotta be in a raid, kill a boss, watch it drop, and win the TOKEN. Then with the TOKEN, you then fly your happy ass to Shattrath and exchange the token for what I hope will be the tanking piece, and not the dps piece (unless everyone in the raid already has their proper piece).

Or, if you really think the "talking" strategy will work, walk right up to Prince Malchezaar and ask him nicely for it. I hope the one-shot will give you the answer you're looking for.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Is blade turning just 200 Damage absorbed? Or is it 200 on each attack for 15 seconds? I don't get the time thing, and I think absorbing 200 damage after on 1/4th of my parries is kind of weak when you're getting nailed for 3-4000 a hit.

I mean, each little bit helps, but I'd prefer a slight increase in threat or something.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Hmm 200 damage by BC's standards IS weak. Non heroic mobs at level 70 can hit tanks for up to 400 500 600, even 1200 some of them. SO I don't know what they were thinking with the "200". If it were "2000" I'd be a bit more satisfied.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Well, first off all you cant compare tier 3 over tier 4.. I know its better, but fully tier 3 stil gives awsome bonus's, but ofc still not better then 2-set bonus and the 4-set bonus from Warbringer Armor which really pwns.. 10% damage from Revenge = More agro = You wont die.
And some say that the 2-set bonus is a bit lousy, but guys, its every time a mob/boss hit you, and its a plus to the healers, who can take a break sometimes with the healing..

Really nice set, and go bring 12 stam sockets on em, to build your health, cause you really shouldnt have a problem about defence, parry and dodge if you got this set..

Commentaire de Thottbot

my guild is about to start running kara in the next week or so, how realistic is this set as a goal for me?

Commentaire de Thottbot

i am the MT btw

Commentaire de Thottbot

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lol warbringer armor

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Armure de porteguerre

Armure de porteguerre est le Set de Raid Palier 4. Il contient 5 pièces. A des bonus d'ensemble à 2 et 4 pièces.

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