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Commentaire de xer0trigger

Pretty sad considering it's only marginally better than https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28204 with the right jewels - at least for rogues.

I would have expected a OMGWTFPWN set of gear for "specialized" leatherworking, considering you only get 3 specific recipes now.

Commentaire de 3257

Completely agree with the poster above. A lot of the armor items for rogues from crafting, quests and reputation are far better than the Assassination set.

I'm 355 Elemental LW at the moment on my rogue, and definitely am looking forward into crafting this set.

In all the (non heroic) instances that I've done, I've only ever seen a Primal Nether drop once.

As you can see by my gear
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jubei%27Thos&n=Rackmount,
all of my gear is from quest items, random things dropped in instances, craftable and rep items. Don't get too disheartened by the lower than average drop rate on rogue dungeon sets.

Commentaire de 580

Awesome Rogue chestpiece.

Too bad https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=31285#M0z is better for Druids, and somehow a little bit easier to get.

Commentaire de 47409

this is pretty insane for a feral druid the total set adds 337 ap and Dodge not to mention the stam (86 stam x 10 = 860 health from this set)

Commentaire de 47409

this chest piece on its own for druids has 127 ap and dodge and 390 health its amazing

Commentaire de Vindicator

This used to be garbage for rogues.. just plain AP and stam.. and agi (some crit/dodge/armor etc, but nothing that amazing).
With the new 12 hit I'm sure it got upgraded for rogues as well.

Commentaire de 37560

the buff added a whooping 11 agility, 12 hitrating, 8AP and (3): 20AP to the vest for rogues.

this is very worth crafting now. previously the LW335 primalstorm breastplate was arguably comparable but now this blows that old blue piece miles away.

Commentaire de 22292

Finally! This entire set is at an epic level and worthy of crafting. Pre-raiding there is nothing better. The ability to get a rogues AP well over 1600 is a beautiful thing.

Thanks blizzard. I'm one happy rogue!

- edit -

3 months + have passed since I crafted this set and I'm still using it. My guild is well into Tempest Keep/SSC and farming gruul/kara. Until you can replace at least two pieces of this set there truly is nothing better. I originally dropped my 4 piece assassination set bonus with the primalstrike chest/set and recently I even picked up the gronn-stitched belt (downgrade/banked).

Until I get a better chest there is 0 reason to drop this set.

Commentaire de 54256

I have to disagree somewhat here with the general opinion. While the PrimalStrike Vest is nice, it's generally a disappointment.

Compare the stats of the Warden's Hauberk (https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=25838), a lvl 62 'Honored' CE faction chestpiece:

238 Armor
+39 Agility
+30 Stamina
+4 to hit gem bonus
3 red gem slots

Yes, the PrimalStrike is much better, in a number of ways, but is it *8 levels* better? Would that chestpiece be that big of an upgrade in 8 levels? It's only marginally better in Stamina, worse in Agility and it's main claim to upgrade is in just the AP, to hit, and set bonus. Plus armor, but.... With the right gems, you could make a sizable dent in the 108 AP and be wearing the Warden's Hauberk 8 levels earlier.

It's nice, but it's disappointing that the end-all leather crafted armor is only *somewhat* better than a piece of armor I spent only 2 hours questing for and could wear 8 levels earlier. Think blizzard needs to go back to the drawing board and give us something worthy of the appelations "upgrade" and "epic". Or maybe the Hauberk is just way overpowered for being just level 62...

Commentaire de sildani

I just grinded from 0 LW to Primalstrike Vest in three days and about 1800 gold. I had the Tunic of Assassination already, and with the right gems came close, but I am still gaining +6 agility, +22 AP, +12 hit and +~0.50% crit over what I had with the Tunic. Worth it? In my opinion, yes, especially if you're a raider competing for open raid slots against other rogues.

Commentaire de simonmaz

You may think this sounds noobish but if your competing for raid spots with other members then if you have a few epics (even if these dont give you that much of a statistical boost) you will be more likely to get picked over the other players. Its completely phycilogical but its true.

Commentaire de 57901

Making the full set requires:

12 Heavy Knothide Leather (60 Knothide Leather)
14 Primal Might (14 of each primal)
3 Primal Nethers

Commentaire de 86411

This set will be sweet along side the Merciless Glads https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/itemset=713 minus the chest peice. and the beautiful thing is, you get the set bonuses from both. Add the Vetrans Leather Boots https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=32790 , and you have a very nice armor set to raid or PvP in.

Commentaire de purr

this set is it for cat druids with the new HoTW change. if you can get it. get it. took me about 700 gold and lots of guild help to grind from 0 to this set in 2 weeks. so yeah, get it and you are set for a while, especially if you don't raid or still farming kara.

Commentaire de 63070

so should i go with this primal set or grind out honor to get the season 1 set we can now get with honor?

Commentaire de Kupotek

I'd say just get the 100 badges tunic from Sunwell.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

they really did screw us with the no sockets i think... its a little unfair for druids mostly because we benefit better off stats not AP... 1)we cant add sockets to help that...2)not fit for feral druids...3) Change it to better fit us all blizz add sockets ty

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I don't know what all the fuss is about that these have no sockets and as such are worthless for Druids. If you're a druid use the Shadowprowler set instead maybe? It was made for druids and this set is more for Rogues. Just a thought. And to answer any concerns about whether or not you have to have Elemental Leather working of 375 to wear, yes you do. If you unlearn LWing you will not be able to wear this any more.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

To make this simple for everyone who's asked in the past weeks or so and haven't received an answer. If a piece of gear states something along the lines of, "Requires Elemental Leatherworking", it means you need to be an elemental leatherworker to equip the item in question. If it states, "requires 350 Leatherworking", much like the drums do, then you need the 350 leatherworking to use the item in question. Simple English.

As for the sockets issue, I don't really see anything serious enough to merit complaints. You still have five more non-weapon gear slots that you can socket gems into.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

these lw sets need 375lw but tailors can craft these before 375 so they also gain skill from crafting these, and 372 to 375 costs a LOT, these has no sockets which is also unique to lw bop sets, really hard to understand these...
Tailors again do not need primal nether to craft their epic items

Edit: these for elem. lw
tribal can craft this

you can check the difference...

Edited, May 18th 2007 6:02am by Serendith

Edited, May 18th 2007 6:35am by Serendith

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Anyone else think it's bull&*!@ that the other LW specializations' final pieces at 375 all have gem sockets, but elemental LWers get screwed?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

where do you get the recipe to make this? or do you train for it?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It would be nice if we had some sockets on these like some of the other specialty crafting has for thier trainable 3 piece epic sets.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I was just looking at this set, and i was wondering if this is worth it for endgame.
Feral Dr00d
and YES i'm a elemental LW

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i can make this on spirestone pst eki or septik.
one of the best chest's int he game

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Where does a Elemental Leather Worker pick up this recipe? (And the others of the set.)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Trainable at LW level 375, from your elemental trianer. Along with the others to this set.

edit: 375

Edited, Mar 15th 2007 12:20pm by Dwittle

Commentaire de Allakhazam

In 2.1, the 20 Str will be replaced with 40 Atp. Still no hit rating though.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Can someone tell me; if I drop LW, will I still be able to keep the vest I made for myself ? Or will I loose it ?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Go to the elemental letherworking trainer in Arathi Highlands

Commentaire de Allakhazam

At what lv LW can i buy the skill? So that i can go get it and dont have to run back and forward to get them all.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Sara Tanner in Searing Gorge for alliance and
Brumn Winterhoof in Arathi Highlands for horde. Need to be lvl 375 leatherworking skill.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

How high i have to be at LW to make this?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The 2.1 upgrade is quite good : an extra 11 agi, an extra 12 hit and 108 AP instead of 100. Also set bonus becomes 40 AP. So total stats : 38 agi, 39 stam, 12 hit rating, 108 AP set bonus 40 AP.

Commentaire de Thottbot

U can learn the Primalstrike at skill 375
For alliance this is Searing gorge. For horde it is Arathi Highlands

Commentaire de Thottbot

this set adds 317 attack power (for rogues) if you count the 57 total agi, AP and set bonus.

plus, the set's 57 agil equals to +1.23% chance to crit (@lvl70). not great by any means but not awful. you still have lots of ways to add crit with the rest of your gear.

all 3 of these pieces has more AP than anything else in their respective armor slots (at least that i can find). Remember to count the agility too. that's pretty good. i would've like to have seen some sockets too, but this set is pretty damn nice, bottom line.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I am very dissappointed... not in this set, but in the amount of rogues out there QQing. This set has more attack power then any other blue piece out there. Not to mention the awesome stam and agi on each piece. Yes, gems are nice, but an item doesn't NEED gems to be good. I have full assassination gear, and when I get this set going, I'll toss the assassination tunic but still have the (4) set bonus. I did the math, and with this full set, I'll have around 300 more AP not to mention the enchants I'm going to buff these up with. Bottom line, dont come to rely on gems, because they are not a need be. And 375 LW isn't that hard to come by if you put a little time into farming.

Brizzios (Troll rogue 20/41/0 Crushridge)

Commentaire de Thottbot

As a rogue Strength is a major waste of a stat! it equals agility when balancing item stats in general, but for a rogue agility is so much better! also, if the 20 strength were converted to straight attack power equivalent it would be more than 20 for sure.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Agreed. +20 STR is useless for the rogue class.

So I ask: What class would this set bonus BE useful for? I can't think of any. Thus, the set bonus on this should be either + to hit or + to crit.

Commentaire de Thottbot

My guess is this set suffer from pre-BC to post-BC development.

What i mean is that when the designer added these set, they were added to the game at the early stage of the expenssion development. As the development move forward, more newer items were added as quest reward. When you do that, you sometime don't remember what items were added. Because of that, Bliz didnt see that these 3 items became junk and useless compared to some Blue and many purple.

The primalstrike need a serious update. Theyre are tons of blue gears much better than primalstrike and moreover the blue items i'm refering to are much easier to get. You don't even need to be in a guild to obtain some of the Blue ones.

Don't waste your mats on these. No matter what spec you are. You will end up replacing your primalstrike gears soon enough as you do quests, instances and pvp.

The solution for bliz, either they change the stats on Primal strike by adding socket or bonus
OR
They add a quest to turn them in for an upgraded primalstrike.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Though, the new patch is gona change the +20 str set bonus to +40 AP instead, at least some improvement for me, as a rogue. :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/may/epic/craft_primalstrike.jpg

This gear becomes a lot nicer after the patch

Commentaire de Thottbot

considering 40 agi = 1 crit at 70, this thing has a decent amount of crit imo...

oh and a total of 146 attack power, 39 sta, and 12 hit rating? stfu whiners, this thing is amazing.

PLUS, you dont have to spend cash on gems after you make it =P

Commentaire de Thottbot

im gonna make this untill i can get the nightbane one or get enough dkp for T4 chest, its a defate upgrade from assasination chest with 3x 3hit 3agi gems in.

but the main problem is leveling l/w is much harder than leveling tailoring and the items are as good...

Commentaire de Thottbot

This set is great with other atk pwr gear, I am currently using the "guile of khorazzi" and "retainers blade" both epics with mongoose enchant on them. also they beefed them up a lil during the patch. I also am using the cobrascale hood and gloves (better than the trash tier 4 set) and a vengence wrap. all have good atk pwr. With the 296 pwr bonus you get from this set its well worth the dodge and stam you lose, for rouges that like to run instances like me. I plan on making this set by the end of the week.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I must admit its very nice chest and the 6 primal mights which would cost alot are easy to grind so when ill be making it soon

Commentaire de Thottbot

man if they added sockets to this, it would be like the best set ever, then theyd have to lower the stats on it. Who cares if theres no sockets ahha

Commentaire de Thottbot

Set is probably the best set for rogues/dps druids that you can get solo. Though it isn't cheap, but look at the stats, and the bonus for set:

Primalstrike Vest
Binds when picked up
Chest Leather
379 Armor
+38 Agility
+39 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 70
Requires Elemental Leatherworking
Equip: Improves hit rating by 12 (0.8%).
Equip: Increases attack power by 108.
Set: Primal Intent (1/3)

Primalstrike Belt
Binds when picked up
Waist Leather
205 Armor
+20 Agility
+32 Stamina
Durability 40 / 40
Requires Level 70
Requires Elemental Leatherworking
Equip: Increases attack power by 84.
Set: Primal Intent (2/3)

Primalstrike Bracers
Binds when picked up
Wrist Leather
159 Armor
+15 Agility
+21 Stamina
Durability 40 / 40
Requires Level 70
Requires Elemental Leatherworking
Equip: Increases attack power by 64.
Set: Primal Intent (3/3)

Bonus is +40 AP for the set

True, the Primal Might mats are tough to get (if your poor and have little patience with grinding), but if you look at the stats on this you'll find yourself hard pressed to find better. And just stack in an Enchant on there and this is probably the best item that you can get before raiding.

In total mats are:

x14 Primal Might
x3 Primal Nether
x18 heavy knothide leather

So on average the cost of this set is about:

PM = 90gx1 x 14 = 1260g
PN = BoP Vendor = 0g
HKL = 4gx1 x 18 = 72g
____________________
Total___________1332g
+PN Effort

(Price varies depending on server)
and of course since the PN is bought (per 1) with x10 Badge of Justice, you better start doing your heroics! Since thats +30 Badge of Justice to the mix, which isn't too easy.

Commentaire de Thottbot

OK Can anyone explain to me this :

im a LW 370 i wanna craft primal strike set

and after crafting i wanna learn new profesion like
enchanting

so if i abadon LW can i still wear

primal strike set?

coz im scared about this

" Primalstrike Vest
Binds when picked up
Chest Leather
379 Armor
+38 Agility
+39 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 70

Requires Elemental Leatherworking

Commentaire de Thottbot

You cannot wear this if you drop LW.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I take it, therefore, if you drop Elemental and pick up another, like Tribal, you won't be able to wear it...right?

EDIT:
"Requires Elemental Leatherworking", oooh nm. XD

LOL

Commentaire de Thottbot

Simple question, Is it good for rogues or not? It got secound best Agility of all roguechests!

And got some nice AP!

What more can u ask of?

Commentaire de Thottbot

This set seems to make Leatherworking a total waste? Am I wrong? Get the Shadowprowler's Chestguard and the veteran's/vindicator's belt/bracers and free up a profession slot for something with a bigger end-game reward?

Commentaire de Thottbot

I hate how people say to not make the belt and bracers because you WILL replace them from 3 runs of karazhan. It is quite possible the gear you want/need from kara will never drop conisdering how much is on the loot table. Besides, the set bonus is what everyone wants, right?

Commentaire de Thottbot

All this fussing about how tailors are treated better.What is the reason we play WoW? To show people up for accomplishing more than they did(come on its the truth and don't deny it). Almost every lock has the Frozen Shadoweave set, but how many rogues have Primal Intent. Primal Intent shows success in something you set out to do, Shadoweave shows money and a little bit of work.

Commentaire de Thottbot

the ap on this set is nice but for those kind of mats it should have sockets. an armor ignore proc or haste proc or something for the set bonus rather than just slapping more ap on it would have been nice but then again we are talking about blizzard here not exactly the most imaginative group of guys out there... like half of the 70 leather helms being black bloodfang for example.

Commentaire de Thottbot

imo this set isnt all that hard to make....I farmed the mats for 5 Primal Mights and had a guildie xmute them for me 1nce a day for 5 days ended up with 17 primals.. lucky me XD...gave the 3 extra to buddy to sell on AH and used the rest to make my set...if u are in a guild that runs kara you can get 3 nethers in caketime with badges..(i know you dont wanna spend all your badges in nethers) you could also get some heroic mech runs goin...last boss drops a nether guaranteed..roll high and u got 3 in 3 runs..and zomg if u skin heavy knothide will take no time at all..l2farm nagrand talbuk?

best place for primal might mat. farmin= elemental plateu
took me about an hour to farm the air,earth,fire,water i needed for one primal might and get the mana's off of elementals in netherstorm (best place is on the edge of the main island..the one area 52 is on..the south edge is BEST place)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Im getting so tired of 70s trying to put down anything that they can't use, or simply don't want to work for. STOP YOUR CRYING. If you wouldn't wear an item yourself, fine, don't wear it, but we don't need to hear your pessimistic attitude toward great items simply cause you are jealous or bitter. Lemme tell ya somethin, this game is about making your character "pimped" out and unique. If you think its unique and cool to wear the pvp gladiators set JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, cool, jump on the bandwagon. But don't try to act like you are special cause you sat in a cave in alterac valley 200 games in a row. If you want to be seen as an actual unique player, and not just a damn clone, then you'll find yourself going after unique created, or very rare pve armor. This gives a certain style to your own character, and people can see that you actually had to farm, think, and save up in order to get a crazy set like this one. That being said, this is definitely worth leveling up lw to get. Sure, the set bonus is a little weak for being the top elemental lw items. it should have been like 400 armor reduction for the set or 300 haste. something crazy. All things aside, this chest pretty much has some of the highest attack power for leather in the entire game. If you say these items are only for noobs or don't think they are worth it, cool, don't wear them and be just like everyone else in your little punk ass gladiator gear. But your just a tool, you silly clone. Learn to be original you fools.Agreed 100% with you.Not many players raid much therefor this is a very unique and nice set for them.

Commentaire de Thottbot

PVE SET! but i still use the set to fulfill the gap until i get my full s1 and start arenas. i will always use this set for pve and always use the glads for pvp. they are viable for pvp if the rest of your gear is pvp because you can throw in +8 crit gems to make up for the crit and throw in a resil enchant to make up for alil resil but viable for pvp in the sense that you can gem to make up for its pvp losses. best atp gear for its respective slots and i would never flame anyone who wants to use this set until they get their full glad set. its pvp viable because its just 3 pieces. plenty of room to make up for the crit and resil losses. plus it has plenty of stam that hemo rogues like myself need to makeup for the direct agi and atp bonuses that come with sub. just need to +8 crit gem all of the sockets you can.

Commentaire de Thottbot

its decent if you want/have the money to make the chestpeice, with the badge reward bracer being one of the best in slot till BT/MH and a belt of similar stats easy to aquire be it from H-BM or Karazhan chess.

the chestpeice you can use the waste walker along with the shoulders for the 2 set bonus into SSC/TK you also have the drop from Nightbane that *could* drop, and Season 3 Pvp chest which is my plan.

its a very nice chestpeice, and if you want to put the work into it to get it great! i have a mage and i have spellfire and theres nothing compable to that untill SSC/TK but the rogue has afew options before, Leatherworking is behind tailoring.

Commentaire de Thottbot

i have just one question, is it good for feral druid?
im trying to get gladiator set but i have only shoulderpads and boots. Ill mix it with dragonhide chest and pants available from honor old and Zangarmarsh till i get full gladiator :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Hey Can anyone please let me know the different "types" of LW and what classes they are best for? Thanks

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Niveau d'objet 120
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Torse	Cuir

Armure : 379
+38 Agilité
+39 Endurance
Durabilité 120 / 120

Niveau 70 requis
Requiert Travail du cuir élémentaire
Équipé : Augmente de 12 le score de toucher.
Équipé : Augmente de 108 la puissance d'attaque.

Intention primordiale (0/3)

Brassards de frappe primordiale
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Gilet de frappe primordiale

(3) Set : Augmente de 40 la puissance d'attaque.

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