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Havoc Demon Hunter in Shadowlands - DPS Strengths, Best Covenants, Soulbinds and Legendaries
Shadowlands
Publié
21/11/2020 à 09:47
par
Kib0
Shadowlands launches on November 23rd / 24th and all classes will be getting new toys to play with -- from Covenant abilities, to Conduits and returning Legendary effects! This article, written by Kib, will provide details on the current state of Havoc DH in Shadowlands, to help you to prepare for the upcoming expansion!
Introduction
This is a follow up to the
State of Havoc Demon Hunter in Shadowlands Beta
posted back in July, a lot has changed in 4 months and we will look at that these changes mean and the strong and weak points for Havoc Demon Hunters in Shadowlands.
About the Author
This guide is written by
Kib
, who raids in Strawberry Puppy Kisses and is Admin of the
Fel Hammer Demon Hunter Discord
. You can catch him online on his
Stream
.
Check out all our Shadowlands Launch Opinion articles by our Class Writers and members of the community! Click on any of the colored specs below to see what articles we've released so far.
These guides were meant to give you a preview of what's to come in the expansion, but don't worry -- our full Shadowlands Class Guides will be updated soon!
Blood Death Knight
Arcane Mage
Assassination Rogue
Frost Death Knight
Fire Mage
Outlaw Rogue
Unholy Death Knight
Frost Mage
Subtlety Rogue
Havoc Demon Hunter
Brewmaster Monk
Elemental Shaman
Vengeance Demon Hunter
Mistweaver Monk
Enhancement Shaman
Balance Druid
Windwalker Monk
Restoration Shaman
Feral Druid
Holy Paladin
Affliction Warlock
Guardian Druid
Protection Paladin
Demonology Warlock
Restoration Druid
Retribution Paladin
Destruction Warlock
Beast Mastery Hunter
Discipline Priest
Arms Warrior
Marksmanship Hunter
Holy Priest
Fury Warrior
Survival Hunter
Shadow Priest
Protection Warrior
What Has Changed for Havoc Demon Hunter?
For a full list of changes going from 8.3 into 9.0 and Shadowlands view this great article.
Shadowlands Demon Hunter Class Changes
.
For this article we will only focus on the more meaningful that occurred since our
previous article
.
Notable Changes Since Last Article
All 4 different Covenants
received numerical alterations bringing them closer together.
Some
tuning has been done to various talents and spells.
Chaos délié
was changed...
AGAIN
.
On one hand, removing the Inner Demon from the talent is great as the landing has been historically buggy and highly dependent on the player latency. On the other hand, the Inner Demon offered an iconic feel and visual to this talent. Overall I think for the greater good, this is a great change apart from the 50% nerf that came with this change in order to put the talent in line with the other two talent on the same row.
Tempête de glaives
now works as intended.
Originally and for a long time on beta,
Tempête de glaives
did not benefit from our
Maîtrise : Présence démoniaque
. This has been fixed making Glaive Tempest a better talent.
Offrande aux flammes
- Has just been reworked.
Not exactly the most insane rework but it makes the ability stronger.
Leveling Perks in Shadowlands
Every two levels leveled in Shadowlands will grant you a new passive effect.
Level 52
-
Ruée fulgurante améliorée
.
A nice damage boost to Fel Rush, nothing extraordinary but great nontheless.
Level 54
-
Métamorphose
.
The
Transformation chaotique
azerite trait as a passive. This somewhat restrict our usage of Metamorphosis around min/maxing the effect of this passive which is generally great but on some niche encounter can also be very limiting on how and when we use our 4 minute cooldown. Generally a good passive to have.
Level 56
-
Frappe du chaos améliorée
.
Havoc pure single target damage is slightly below average in Shadowlands and this passive is a very welcome one.
Level 58
-
Regard furieux
.
We commented on the previous article about the lost of Furious Gaze and what it meant for the spec going forward and Blizzard heard us. Furious Gaze passive is extremely powerful and benefits our cooldown based spells greatly. What is even better is that in Shadowlands Furious gaze is haste % and not haste rating like it was in BFA, which means that the secondary stat DR will not affect this powerful passive.
Gameplay Repercussions from the Recent Changes
Not much of the recent changes had major effects on the playstyle of Havoc Demon Hunter.
Tempête de glaives
is now the talent of choice on the level 30 row,
Démoniaque
remain dominant but
Inertie
has some niche use.
Barrage gangrené
is still extremely underpowered and is likely to gather dust all expansion baring some very big tuning. None of the new conduits or Legendary add anything noteworthy to our toolkit beside damage.
Covenants
Each zone of the Shadowlands is controlled by one of four powerful groups: the
Kyrian
of Bastion, the
Necrolord
of Maldraxxus, the
Night Fae
of Ardenweald and the
Venthyr
of Revendreth. We will experience a preview of each covenant as we level through their respective zones and will be required to make a heavy choice at max level and choose one covenant to join. Choose wisely. Changing Covenants is not difficult, but returning to a previously abandoned Covenant will be very difficult.
You can read the full overview of the Covenants
Here
.
Kyrian
Ability
Décret élyséen
is quite nice ability to use. The sigil being AoE and on a short cooldown gives it a good niche that emphasize one of Havoc's strength. The 3 lesser soul fragments are also nice to have access to and synergize well with
Appétit démoniaque
granting you basically 90 fury every time you use the spell.
Conduit
Répétition de décret
- This conduit generates a second sigil in the same spot that deals a portion of the damage. Unfortunately it doesn't also generate extra souls. Still, it's a respectable increase to one of our most powerful AoE damage abilities.
Signature
Invocation de régisseur
This ability offered strong utility in M+ due to the amount of debuff it could cleanse from the player but now that Nathria testing has concluded, this signature looks even better. Most encounters in the raid involve bleeds which can be cleansed from the potion.
Necrolord
Ability
Offrande aux flammes
- Has just been reworked, again. Not exactly the most insane rework but it makes the ability stronger. The newly buffed
Âme démoniaque
is also a significant buff for us on a 2 minute cooldown which means that every other use will also by synced up with
Métamorphose
for big gains.
Conduit
Réserve de ressentiment
- This extends the duration of the damage buff from absorbing an
Âme démoniaque
. It's a strong choice if playing Necrolord, as it can provide a significant uptime increase to a 25% bonus.
Signature
Chair recomposée
The shield can be quite powerful in niche situations which seems to be the theme for Signature abilities. We can all think of / remember encounters where having this shield would've been a life saver and I don't think Shadowlands will be any different.
Night Fae
Ability
La traque
has received a nice buff recently making it more competitive with the other covenant ability. The dot is still extremely weird to apply with 100% confidence as mob hitbox are very often deceptive in their size on top of a charge ability. The cast time makes this ability extremely awkward to use as well to say the least.
Conduit
Malveillance surnaturelle
- A substantial increase to the primary target damage of
La traque
. Unfortunately has no effect in AoE.
Signature
Forme d’âme
With so much mobility available to us with
Ruée fulgurante
,
Planer
,
Retraite vengeresse
and
Maîtrise : Présence démoniaque
this is quite useless for us.
Venthyr
Ability
Marque immorale
. is the highest damage covenant ability for us. The downside compared to the Kyrian ability is that Sinful Brand is only single target outside of when you
Métamorphose
every 4 minutes and apply
Marque immorale
on all targets hit by Meta.
Conduit
Regard scrutateur intense
- A good reduction to the cooldown of
Marque immorale
, has great synergy if playing
Convenances du désert
from Theotar the Mad Duke.
Signature
Porte des ombres
A teleport can be situationally nice however for the same reasons the Night Fae signature was pretty useless outside of these moments for us.
Overview
At the moment, there are only two covenant that seems viable, the
Venthyr
and the
Kyrian
. These Covenant offers us not only the best two Ability but also the best two signatures.
Venthyr
has slightly better Soulbind traits and has a more single target damage focused ability while
Kyrian
has slightly better conduits available early on for progression and has a more AoE / Cleave oriented ability.
Best Conduits and Soulbinds for Havoc Demon Hunter
Potency
Assaut féroce
- For Raiding. This conduit will give us a great single target damage bonus which is the desired type of damage for most raiding encounters.
Brasier grandissant
- For M+. A very solid buff to
Aura d’immolation
in AoE and cleave making our sustained DPS noticeably stronger.
If your soulbind tree allow for two Potency conduit, use the two above in all situations. They are simply that good
Finesse
- Finesse conduits do not provide great benefits for Havoc so if we pick them we will use them in this order.
Hâte de gangrefeu
- a nice movement speed buff.
Consommation vorace
- situationally nice but enemies having multiple buffs to purge is a rare occurrence, strong in PVP however.
Endurance
Encre visqueuse
- a flat magic damage reduction? Most damage taken from encounters is magic. This conduit is extremely strong in all content of the game.
Défenseur gangrené
- another strong defensive conduit on a short cooldown ability. This is great all around.
Restauration brisée
- especially strong when playing
Appétit démoniaque
due to the extra orbs spawned, so some niche uses.
Best Soulbinds for Havoc Demon Hunter
As mentioned previously, the
Venthyr
and the
Kyrian
are our best options for Covenant, so we will focus on them for Soulbinds.
Nadjia offers several very powerful traits and is the best Soulbind for Havoc Demon Hunters.
Sensations fortes
is a powerful haste buff with decent uptime in Raid, and very good uptime in Mythic+.
Agent du chaos
is a solid interrupt ability, with many possible uses in Mythic+.
Mise au point des préparatifs
is just a permanent buff to consumables, which is always good.
Duelliste déterminé
is a solid passive, equivalent to 3% Versatility. Unfortunately it requires a second Finesse conduit, putting it behind some others.
Pelagos is pretty weak soulbind for us. The original
Renoncement au passé
was extremely strong for us but since the change that changed the versatility buff to a magic damage reduction Pelagos does not offer much for us Havoc Demon Hunters. Having two Potency conduit however makes Pelagos still a strong choice.
If you were to use Pelagos, I'd recommend the following tree:
Legendaries
Legendaries are back and we have a lot to pick from, it seems. In reality only a few provide powerful enough effect to be utilized.
Demon Hunter Legendaries
Angoisse collective
- This power is very strong. Provides very strong AoE burst and reliable single target damage also.
L’heure la plus sombre
- 0 throughput benefits, RNG defensive as darkness does not guarantee any damage being prevented to begin with... very weak.
Faveur de Regard-noir
- This legendary provides a powerful buff... when it procs... With a 20% chance to proc the delta between good and bad pulls is very large. Very up or down feeling with this legendary. Numerically it is strong but in practice, reliable damage is almost always preferable.
Bombardement gangrené
- This legendary synergize well with both
Maître du glaive
and
Inertie
. However with recent changes to how the legendary works, it is quite lack luster to use. The extra glaives are very buggy, but at least they don't pull extra adds anymore. The damage provided by this legendary is strong in all situations, but unfortunately it is still bugged and does not throw the correct amount of glaives resulting in a lot of damage lost.
Havoc Demon Hunter Legendaries
Blessure brûlante
- Is a decent legendary on AoE and mostly for M+. It requires a lot of tab targeting to fully utilize but if you can maintain the debuff on multiple enemies the damage ramps up quickly.
Théorie du chaos
- Recently buffed and now a strong legendary for single target when using
Premier sang
. There is some RNG involved in proccing this but the bonus it provides is very very strong.
Nature assombrie
- Very strong bonus but the proc condition for this legendary are quite hard to meet. Holding Eye Beam for the end of a pull is very very bad as well and sniping killing blow isn't the easiest task to achieve.
Noyau gangrené erratique
At first glance this looks amazing paired with
Inertie
but in reality the extra time we spend in Momentum is basically wasted as we do not currently have the resource generation to empower the added momentum uptime. Later in the expansion this legendary power will gain a lot of value.
Neutral Legendaries
Écho d’Eonar
- Was weak, buffed, and then nerfed. It has too low of a proc rate to be useful and the effect itself isn't even particularly powerful despite being random.
Jugement de l’Arbitre
- Same as every other legendary in this category. It does some damage but weak.
Crépitation de l’Antre
- Simply useless outside Torghast.
Sagacité de Norgannon
- We aren't casters. Useless.
Proclamation de Sephuz
- This is decent in Mythic+ due to the high uptime on interrupts and stuns. It's a decent option but not quite as strong as others.
Appât fantasmatique stable
- Something for world content? Probably unnecessary.
Troisième œil du Geôlier
- Nice buff, but useless in PVE or PVP.
Sacrifice de vitalité
- Used to be good for Vengeance but for Havoc, pretty useless once again.
Choosing a Legendary
Angoisse collective
is the best bang for your hard earned
Cendre d’âme
in all type of content.
Bombardement gangrené
will be extremely powerful once the bugs are fixed but for now, don't craft this.
Concerns Going Forward
Since the inception of the spec in Legion Havoc has always performed pretty well in the global balance of the game and it will most likely continue to do so. However this does not mean that there aren't major issues with the spec.
The performance of a spec does not correlate to how engaging / fun it is to play
. Havoc suffers a lot from this. When stripped down to the core spec spells the Havoc toolkit is extremely minimal and weak. Synergies between talents and abilities are far and between. The recent beta patches brought some good changes,
Regard furieux
mainly, but also failed to fix our weaker talents. Havoc has always been a spec that scaled well with systems provided and having strong interactions with these systems but in Shadowlands the power growth from these power is severely weaker than in Legion and in BFA and so far the tuning of Havoc has not been adjusted to compensate. The spec still lacks an interesting proc to react to and play around.
Marque du chaos
saves the day again. We make our Warlocks and Mages overlord happy and keep our raid spot, for now.
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