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Commentaire de 163986

Eleveur de Tigres Blancs

Il faut atteindre le niveau de réputation Exalté avec les éleveurs de Sabres-de-Givre, pour pouvoir acheter la monture épique d'un Sabre-de-givre de Berceau-de-l'Hiver, alors que votre niveau de réputation initial auprès de cette faction est de 0/3000 Neutre .

Quêtes répétables:
Provisions de sabres-de-givre
Intrusion de Berceau-de-l'hiver A partir de 1500 points de réputation neutre
Géants déchaînés (Elite) Au niveau de réputation Honoré

Le fait d'accomplir ces quêtes vous octroie 250 points de réputation avec les Éleveurs de Sabres-de-Givre. (275 si vous êtes un Humain)

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Commentaire de 5909

Started this Quest Last Night will post when I am finished to give an IDEA of how long this takes. I don't plan to Grind Daily but will try to update Numbers and any tips as I come accross them.

The First Quest on each turn in has been giving me 82 rep/per turn-in. Last night completed 5 turn-ins for 404/3000.
(404/3hrs = 134rep/hr -- 42,000rep/134 = 313hrs -- 313hrs/24hrs = 13days) just a Thought but it took me 17 days to get to lvl60

LVL63 HUMAN WARLOCK, XFGREAPER on STORMSCALE.

Group and I'll grind with you.

Commentaire de smashfanDS

You don't need to be exalted with Darnassus anymore to be able to ride the mount.

Commentaire de 61678

This NPC can be killed by Horde, and attacking him will not cause the Horde player to flag for PvP.

Commentaire de catkin

I've been getting 250 rep for the first quest.

Commentaire de jonybang

Question #1,
Where is this guy, wowwiki.com has him at 50, 10 which matched the little dot this site has him at, however haveing traveled up and down, left to right of 50, 10 he is nowhere to be found, was he moved in one of the previous patches?

Commentaire de Thottbot

He is located at 50,10.

He is on top of the overhanging ice projection at Frostsaber rock. You have to circle around behind it and climb to the top to reach him. You can't see him from below and you can't see him from behind -- he's only visible once you're about halfway up the projection.

If you know where he is, he's easy to find and reach. If you don't, he is not easy to find and reach. The descriptions above that give no information and just say he's easy to find are rather pointless and unhelpful.

Anyway, hopefuly there is enough data here in this post that he will be easy to find for anyone that reads it.

Commentaire de Thottbot

In short, do not ever do this Faction Quest. I just finished the series and was very disappointed in the end. I have worked countless hours everyday to get to exalted, only to find out you have to pay for the mount in the end. If you want a Epic mount stick to increasing your Ranks doing PVP, I bet it would be faster.

Can start questing at Level 59 in Winterspring at Frostaber Rock
First quest is Frostsaber Provisions: Meat Collection quest needing 5 bear meat and 5 chimera meat
Second quest requires you be Friendly is Winterfall Intrusion: Kill quest of 5 shaman & 5 ursa
Third quest requires you be Honored is Rampaging Giants: Kill quest of 4 Elite giants and 4 Elite Preservers
Repeat the above quest till you are Exalted
Exalted Faction allows your to purchase the Epic mount for 800gold. No sorry what others say of it being Free was total horse-dung.
Be warned it took me over 5+months about 5-7 hours a day (yes that many hours)to get to Exalted.
If you too have been taken by this retarded Faction quest please post on the websites forums. If they hear us we might have a chance of actually getting a reward that is worth over 5months of playtime that you don't have to pay 800gold for. "Sheesh...you've been warned"

Commentaire de Thottbot

I completed this line of quests and it roughly took me 2 months. Others in my group took about a month to do it.

It is worth it in the end.

Some information you should know before starting it.

You will have to pay for the mount once you hit exalted (I knew this). It will cost you 900G once you are exalted OR 800G if you are a sergeant rank or higher.
The first quest is the hardest. And I am glad for this because lots of people give up after about 5 quest runs. Makes it more rare for people like me who have the mount.
Never do the Giants quest. Always stick to killing the furbolgs. The run back from frostwhisper gorge will slow you down tremendously.
Get every speed enhancer for your mount. (carrot on a stick, glove enchant, and spurs).
Also know that you will make the 900G while doing the quest, especially if you are a skinner. I was lucky enough to find an epic and probably made over 2000G while doing this quest.
Always be grouped up with people. The server I am on has probably 5 people doing the quest at a time. Don't be afraid to whisper and ask for help because this is not something you can do solo(and I like soloing).

Good Luck!

Commentaire de Thottbot

can someone who has gotten the mount post a picture of how it looks...I'm a hunter and I always try to get a pet to match my mount..Presently I have the white and black stripped mount and King B as a pet.

From one of the epics available in Darnassus there is a Frostsaber (the pinkish looking one that looks white in bright areas) so I have already tamed one of the frostsabers as a pet.

Now if I get this mount (I have began the first set of quests at lvl 58, hopefully this will help me lvl up tp 60 and by then I can have the rare mount)
BUT I would like to know how it looks like so I can start thinking which cat I should get as a pet.

Thanks in advance.

PS. After turning in the meat quest for the first time my faction went up 50/3000. The meat didn't take long at all to get. Just a lil south of the frostsaber rock place on the everlook side of the road there is a ton of bears and chimeras in one place.

Commentaire de Thottbot

mm, would help if you read the info from top to bottom.

Winterspring is not a faction (everlook is) and you gain reputation with Wintersaber trainers

i started 6 days ago ( as soon as i hit lvl 58 and exalted at the same time) and now i am almost friendly with wintersaber trainer.

the quests are long or frustrating, however my goal is getting at to at least 1000g. I used to be 300 in herborist but i abandoned this for skinning... its worth it specially with the war effort.

However i am lucky enough to be on a month old server... and so far there are hardly any high lvl horde members, so i get to group with the alliance hanging around the winterfall village for rich thorium veins or chests.

As i make my way back to Rivern.. I stop to kill a max of 6 beasts for the provisions quest. So every 5 winterfal intrusion turnins, I manage to complete the provisions and get leather.

currently 2475/3000 neutral hope to be the first on the english server Quel'thalas

good luck to all of you
lvl 60 human shadow priest Rhodesia
Lost in Azeroth Guild
Quel'thalas

Commentaire de Thottbot

When i respecced to holy i chose to take a 2 week break. Since the 1.10 patch came out yesterday. decided to go back to shadow priest just for this week in order to up my rep a bit more and get money.

I am currently revered with 450/21000 (a total of 21450/42000) and 60% revered with timbermaw hold faction.

off to up rep good luck

Commentaire de Thottbot

Is there a Horde equivalent quest giver for this type of faction based mount?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Drop rate for the meat is just stupid.

1st quest took 35 mins, the bears and chimera also dropped crap bulky loot, it took another 5 min round trip to *go back* and give the meat to him and get quest again...all for a measley 55xp. 40 min quest for 55 out of 42,000 xp? No thx...

I'm sorry but I just dont find that fun or worth it knowing at the end i have to also pay 800g for the mount after spending months doing a insanely irritating series of quests that are designed to make you go slowly mad.

Yes, if you do this grind you will probably be one of only a handful on your server with the mount, but in all honesty it isn't that special a mount - it doesn't even have an aura. If it were 110% or even 105% speed or glowed with a steam aura that mad it look badass then maybe (just maybe) it might justify such an insane faction grind.

At least with Timbermaw faction grinding you have access to patterns, enchants etc - a faction with the potential for better stuff in the future. What could you possibly get from the frost guy in the future after your mount, another one? ... in a different colour for another 800g? Lol!

Well done to those that have this mount and GOOD FREAKING LUCK to those that are starting it. I think i'll wait until blizzard realises how retarded it is and revises it in a future patch before i look at it again.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Up to 5500/12000 and slowly moving forward. Between raiding and real life there isn't much time to do this.

Commentaire de Thottbot

u still get the measly 75 rep when u hand in the meats but u only have to pay 100g now probably only 90 when honoured, and no u dont need epic riding which is excellent imo

Commentaire de Thottbot

just started on this, i did one round and it took around half an hr... this will take decades D: gah maybe i should just get a regular epic... ><;; NO must hold on to resolve

anyways, good luck to any doing this!

Commentaire de Thottbot

Just starting this quest now...
im not doing it becuase i need a epic mount
im just doing it because the mount looks freakin sweet... plus i have alot of time on my hands xD

Commentaire de Thottbot

No level does not affect the drop rate on this. If anything i would say the higher in level you are the easier it would be because you can take out the Shardtooth and Chillwind quicker. But yeh its just a bad drop rate in general.

Commentaire de Thottbot

What's up all?
I started this grind a few weeks ago, and I switch back and forth between it and Outland questing. I'm a 63 Balance Druid, and I just got the Winterfall quest opened up at 1500 rep.

The drop rates on the chillwind/shardtooth meats seem to be on a cycle sometimes: a few in a row, dry spell, one more, dry spell, etc...
One thing I've been wondering, if you're grouped with one other player, will you both get a meat chunk from one kill? My feeling is no, but I just wanted to pose the question. I've strictly soloed the chimeras/maulers up to now.

I enjoy this grind, Winterspring is a nice break from regular grinding, like a mini-vacation in-game.

Also, if you have the cache of mau'ri, you collect those eko pieces from all winterspring creatures. The jujus you get from the witch doctor in Everlook who converts the eko pieces sell fairly well :)

I'm a skinner too, so I get gobs of leather.

All in all, a nice way to raise cash, and EVENTUALLY, a freaky fast mount.

-Volryn
Lvl 63 Night Elf Druid
Shandris server

Commentaire de Thottbot

Does anyone know how much faction you lose killing him?
I'm almost exalted and damn it's tempting. I'd love to get, say, 75 extra rep points and grind his face into the snow just once, but it you lose 1000 points... alternately, do you have to *keep* exalted to use the mount?

Edit: a friend did it FOR SCIENCE!
the answer is 250, and not any extra for the cat.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Wintersaber Trainers

With the Burning Crusade Expansion now, its really to get exalted with this faction, you can easily get 3k+ a day, at max 3k a day will only take you 14 days min.

Don't bother doing the Giant quest, as its to far away, Just do the Winterfall Intrusion quest, its the fastest.

Once your exalted and you obtain the mount, even if you loose your exalted status with the faction you can still use it.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I would do the giants because you can knock them out while you wait for the bogs to respawn. I am almost to exalted and it takes a long long while.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Since the latest patch 2.3 you get 250 rep per turn in as opposed to the 75 that it used to be, so getting the mount just became much easier.

Commentaire de Thottbot

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The Math behind Obtaining the Winterspring Frostsaber
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NPC: Rivern Frostwind (Located On Frostsaber Rock in the North-West Corner of Winterspring, Kalimdor, The Left Continent…)
Faction: Wintersaber Trainers

Requirements: You Need To Be At Least Level 58, Though Being Level 70 Is a Huge Advantage, 75 Riding Skill (Obtained At Level 40.), You Also need to be Alliance..., If your horde... no luck here

Not Required but You Would Be Stupid If You Didn’t: An Epic Mount (100% Riding Obtained At Level 60) And Time… Time Is a Big Part Of This, If You Don’t Have Spare Time, This Will Take You a Very Long Time.
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For a Human. (Requires Diplomacy, A Racial Ability, Only Active in Humans.)

By Doing All Quests Available to You from Rivern Frostwind before Returning to Him At Any Given Time.
The Number of Trips to See the NPC Should End up like this. (See Below.)

Visits = Trips to See Rivern Frostwind.

6 Visits = 1’650 Reputation = Access to Second Quest.
14 More Visits = 7’700 Reputation = Access to Third Quest. (28 Trips If You Stop Doing the First Quest as It Is Horrible.)
35 More Visits = 32’725 Reputation = Exalted. (50 Trips If You Are Only Doing the Last Two Quests)

You Now Have the Ability to Purchase the Winterspring Frostsaber from Rivern Frostwind For 80 Gold, To the Best Of My Knowledge You Do Not Need Exalted Reputation With Any Other Factions In Order To Use/Ride This Mount As Of The Start Of 2008, Nor Do You Need 150 Riding Skill.

1 More Visit = 935 Reputation = Exalted Will Be Capped Out. (Over By +10 Reputation…)
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For Anyone Else. (Anyone Not Human)

By Doing All Quests Available to You from Rivern Frostwind before Returning to Him At Any Given Time.
The Number of Trips to See the NPC Should End up like this. (See Below.)

Visits = Trips to See Rivern Frostwind.

6 Visits = 1’500 Reputation = Access to Second Quest.
15 More Visits = 7’500 Reputation = Access to Third Quest. (30 Trips If You Stop Doing the First Quest as It Is Horrible)
39 More Visits = 33’150 Reputation = Exalted. (56 Trips If You Are Only Doing the Last Two Quests)

You Now Have the Ability to Purchase the Winterspring Frostsaber from Rivern Frostwind For 80 Gold, To the Best Of My Knowledge You Do Not Need Exalted Reputation With Any Other Factions In Order To Use/Ride This Mount As Of The Start Of 2008, Nor Do You Need 150 Riding Skill.

1 More Visit = 850 Reputation = Exalted Will Be Capped Out. (Over By +0 Reputation…)
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I Personally have this mount, and to date this has been the worst rep grind that i have done... my current count is 9 exalted factions
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Commentaire de Thottbot

One piece of Advice. DO NOT JUMP STRAIGHT OFF THE ROCK.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Alliance Only
<How Ceolwyn and Lariza did it>
Holy Priest and Protection Paladin
<Gorefiend>

http://www.wowfracture.com/frostsaber.JPG

Where to get it:

Frostsaber Rock, all the way in the north of winterspring from Rivern Frostwind . (On top of the big rock jutting out.) Once Exalted, you can purchase the mount for 80 gold.

FIRST:

Quest:Frostaber Provisions
Amount: 6 times.
Notes:
This quest drop rate isn't the funnest for a grinding quest, but it isn't too horrible. Just think, once you finish this part you never really have to do it again! (Unless you are a skinner and enjoy skinnings from these.. but note your bags fill up faster picking up those dang bear jaws and whatnot >.<!)

SECOND:

Quest:Winterfall Intrusion
Amount: 162 times.
Notes: This is the quest we grinded on the most. Reason is: It is not a drop rate quest, it is just a kill quest. The location of the mob is at . It will be a small little village, and they will typically be in the rear area of the village as well as on the ridge directly south of there.

BONUS!

Quest: Beads for Salfa
Notes: If you have completed the Winterfall Activity quest (given by Salfa at 27,34), then Winterfall Spirit Beads will drop along with your kills.
Warning!: I would wait until -after- you finish with your Wintersaber Trainer Rep or until -after- you are honored to turn in the beads. (You don't have to, but it's advice I wish I had when I started..) This is so you still get as much experience from killing the mobs as possible.
Why would I do this too?:
With enough experience, you can buy things from Meilosh. Click here to see all the many things you can get, not including eventually getting the quest for Defender of the Timbermaw.

Tip!

Make sure you have all quests accepted at all times. You never know when you will be killing the giants. Also, if you get dazed to or from the furbolgs, there might be a possibility a meat might drop! If this happens enough it's like a bonus quest turn in :P

We started out at level 62, the two of us. We made twins in game and figured we wanted matching mounts as well.. and this was our goal. We could never be happier with our griding. We plan on getting this mount again for our second set of twins as well.

Please note that this is a mount that has 100% speed increase, however you only need 75 riding for it! So if you don't have the gold for the upgrade in riding, you don't have to worry until later (but beware.. it will bite you in the butt later as you will have to spend -more- because to get the 225 riding, you need the 150 first >.<!). We personally both had epic mounts as to make the commute between the quest giver and the quest area faster, thus less time spent on grinding.

there is also a giant quest that comes at some point ( Rampaging Giants ), but the quest is so far south we only did it when all of the mobs were either being killed by others for the quests from Everlook and whatnot or when we needed a break from the furbolgs. They took longer to kill, were spread out more and are also elite.

Finally, I would also like to note that this amount is not relevant for the human race in the game. Their reputation gain is increased so the mount you need to do each quest will be even less! *sigh*

Commentaire de Thottbot

Just completed this Quest, took nearly 2 weeks. Is well worth it if you are a skinner I got LW to cap here & skinning & lvl went up from 59 to 63. Made lots off the skins. It is easiest if you leave quest & when says Winterspring cut off road to left & get birds & bears on way back to Winterfalls then cash in stuff & go to Giants then stone to Everlook & run to turn in & repeat. This will also put you in good with the Timbermaw who sell you stuff & Exalted means buy on discount. Not so hard & PRETTY CAT. Cost was 80 gold. Ride is 100% without paying to ride at 150 you can ride it at 75. Good Hunting all.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

He's hostile to Horde.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

my friend managed to get this after reading the forum i CANT wait to start lol oh well she managed to do it so can i! :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Alright, I've heard so many different things about this mount that I still need a solid answer to these questions. Forgive me if you've mentioned it correctly before, I just don't know what to believe.

Do I need the Riding Skill required to ride an Epic for the Wintersaber, or will I still be able to ride it with my Apprentice Tiger Riding Skill?

Does it cost 100g, or 1000?

Is it worth it? Please let me know.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

So I'm a human mage (level 65) and exalted with Darn now.... and I've got my epic mount riding skill. But he won't sell me a cat. Do I need to be friendly with the frostsaber trainers in order to buy one? (I'm neutral now) What am I missing?

Thanks in advance!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I just got to 3000/6000 friendly with this guy, so I have some idea what it takes and the long long grind ahead.

Those playing horde whining about this quest don't realize what this quest takes. If you start this quest and aim to finish it, *everything* is secondary. You don't create a horde character and wish to have this mount. You create an alliance character to get this mount. You don't create a level 70 character and wish for this mount, you create the level 70 character to get this mount. I'm not joking: it is easier to get to level 70 than get this mount.

Here's a little perspective on this mount:

- That dream of being lvl 58 and riding on a 100% speed mount you have? It ain't happening. You will not have this mount before level 70. You will get well past level 60 just on the grind alone (or whenever you stop getting rep for killing the shaman and ursas). And only if you are seriously dedicated will you get it before level 70, but I doubt you'd want to do such a thing as being 70 makes the grind easier. And you want the lvl 69 riding crop.

- That dream of having this mount without paying for 150 riding skill? It ain't happening. You will want an epic mount to finish this quest, unless you are a serious masochist as most of this quest involves getting from the top of the rock back down to the winterfall village. 60% vs. 100% is a big freaking difference. That's the difference between this quest being a 2-4 month grind and a 4-8 month grind.

- As a druid, it is easier to get to lvl 70, get the heroic key to auchindoun, and get swift flight form (epic flight form) than to get this mount.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

To all who have gone before, sorry...
Looks like they have changed the reputation gains for the quests. 68 hunter with honored status and I'm now getting 350 rep for Giants quest, 250 each for the other two. Glad I'm going to be able to finish this faster (started at 58 and have been working on it off and on), but going to really upset everyone who put all the time into this epic quest...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

If you are not a Nightelf you have to be exalted with Darnassus to learn riding.
Since Patch 1.12.1 there are 2 riding skills to learn. Riding(1) for the normal lvl40 mount and riding(150) for the epic one. If you want to know more about this issue, please refer to the patch notes.

In Winterspring you have to do the "Frostsaber Provisions" quest until you reach a reputation of 1500 neutral. Now the quest "Winterfall Intrusion" should be available. It's quite simple, all you have to do is kill 5 "Winterfall Shamans" and 5 "Winterfall Ursas", which also raises your reputation with the "Timbermaw Hold".

- +5 reputation for each kill until you reach "revered". Make sure not to turn in the "Winterfall Spirit Beads" until then. "High Chief Winterfall" gives +25 reputation every time. -

With a reputation of "honored" you should be able to get the quest "Rampaging Giants", which leads you south, where you have to kill 4 "Frostmaul Giants" and 4 "Frostmaul Preservers".
If you are persistant enough to reach "exalted" with the Wintersaber Trainers, you will finally be able to buy the epic mount.

Some tips:

1. You should do the quests from "Witch Doctor Mau'ari", who can be found in Everlook, before starting the "Wintersaber Trainer" quests. Once you have obtained the "Cache of Mau'ari" from him, just put that item in your inventory, you are able to collect the "E'ko", which can be turned in for some nice items. The "E'ko" and the resulting items you'll get while doing the "Wintersaber Trainer" quests are listed below.

- "Shardtooth E'ko" --> "Juju Ember" (+15 fire resistance for 10 min)
- "Chillwind E'ko" --> "Juju Chill" (+15 frost resistance for 10 min)
- "Winterfall E'ko" --> "Juju Power" (+30 strength for 30 min)
- "Frostmaul E'ko" --> "Juju Might" (+40 attack power for 10 min)

The good thing about these is, you can buff other players as well as yourself, so don't throw them away if u don't need them.
2. It really pays out to be a Herbalist because you can collect tons of "Icecaps" while doing the quests. By the time I reached "friendly", I collected 12 stacks and every single stack sells for 20 Gold in the AH.
3. When doing the "Winterfall Intrusion" quest, don't turn in the "Winterfall Spirit Beads" until you reach "revered" with the "Timbermaw Hold" because until then you get reputation for each kill. Turning all the hundrets of "spirit beads" in at revered, will definetly give you a nice boost in reputation.
4. The Winterfall Furbolgs drop lots "runecloth". Turning in all that runecloth in Darnassus will boost your reputation quite a bit, which gets you closer to learn riding, unless you are a Nightelf.

OK, I think that's all.

P.S.: English is not my native language, so please pardon my grammar and spelling if there should be mistakes. (that's always a good excuse^^)

Edited, Oct 13th 2006 at 1:20am PDT by reallybored

Edited, Oct 13th 2006 at 2:36am PDT by reallybored

Edited, Today 2:44am by reallybored

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I just went up there and he isnt there. Is there a quest he runs off on?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

***WINTERSPRING FROSTSABER / WINTERSABER TRAINERS FAQs FOR ALLIANCE AND HORDE***
This has all the FAQs and any general questions alliance and horde have regarding how to obtain the , sold by Rivern Frostwind in Winterspring.

---ALLIANCE FAQs:-------------------------------------------------
Q #1. Where is Rivern Frostwind?
A #1. He is at the tip of frostsaber rock in north-west Winterspring.

Q #2. How do I buy a Wintersaber Frostsaber mount from him?
A #2. You MUST grind 42,000 reputation points with the Wintersaber Trainers riding back and forth across Winterspring at 75 rep per quest turn in and reach exalted by doing 3 quests he gives you. This is the ONLY way to get the mount.

Q #3. What level do I have to be to get the quests to begin grinding?
A #3. You must be at least level 58 to begin his quests.

Q #4. I just found him, but he only has 1 quest, where are the other 2 quests?
A #4. When you first meet him he only has 1 quest for you to do untill you gain 1,500 rep where you will get the 2nd quest to do untill you are honored where you get the 3rd and final quest.

Q #5. How much reputation do I get if I am a human?
A #5. As a human you will get 82 rep each quest turn in.

Q #6. As a human, how many quests will I have to complete to become exalted with the winterspring trainers?
Q #6. As a human you will have to complete 513 quests.

Q #7. How much reputation do I get if I am a non-human?
A #7. As a non-human you will get 75 rep each quest turn in.

Q #8. How many quests will I have to complete to become exalted with the winterspring trainers as a non-human?
Q #8. As a non-human you will have to complete 560 quests.

Q #9. Witch of the 3 quests is the fastest?
Q #9. The fastest quest to complete is "Winterfall Intrusion" which requires you to kill 10 level 57-59 winterfall furblogs. Average completion time of this quest in 10 minutes.

Q #10. How much is the Winterspring Frostsaber mount when I am exalted?
A #10. The mount costs 90g to purchase.

Q #11. How fast does the Winterspring Frostsaber travel?
A #11. The mount travels at 100% speed increase.

Q #12. The mount says it requires 75 riding skill, do I have do buy epic mount training (150) to ride this epic mount?
A #12. No, this is the only epic mount in the game that requires 75 riding skill, but you will need 150 riding skill to learn training for flying mounts.

Q #13. Why don't more people have the winterspring frostsaber if they don't have to buy epic training to ride this epic mount?
A #13. Two reasons really, this grind is THE most intense and longest reputation grind in the entire game, period. Second, you can easily make 650g for epic mount training and 90g for epic mount by questing and auctioning/vedoring items LONG before you ever finish the grind. By the end of the grind you should make over 2,000g and have about 15 or 16 blue items and maybe even 1 or 2 epics.

---HORDE FAQs:-------------------------------------------------
Q #1. Where is Rivern Frostwind?
A #1. He is at the tip of frostsaber rock in north-west Winterspring.

Q #2. (As blood elf) When I talk to him he says I am now neutral with the wintersaber trainers, how do I begin the quests to raise my reputation?
A #2. You can not obtain any quests to raise your reputation with the wintersaber trainers as the quests and winterspring frostsaber mount are obtainable being alliance ONLY.

Q #3. Can horde obtain the ?
A #3. No, this mount is exclusively for Alliance players ONLY.

Q #4. Do horde have a version of this mount grind?
A #4. No, there is no horde version of the wintersaber trainers, however there were Ravasour Trainers in Un'goro Crater at one time but were removed from the game. No word if they will ever be implemented into the game again.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It will cost u 900g anyway. He's not belonging to Alliance, so there is no discount for rank 3+.

P.S. I have it on Draenor.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I have begun the climb

find the best way is to do one or two quests a game session and reserve time to grind the heck out of it on weekends! :)

is it possible to sell the wintersaber on AH after you buy it from trainers?

:)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Why is it, that HORDE cannot access any of these quests nor being able to get this mount (from not being able to access said quests) I approached this NPC as my 62 Undead Rogue and he appeared Red Named, he didnt attack me, but I was unable to talk to him, with lead to me not getting the quests obviously. Is there some Pre-quest I need to do? Or is it that BLIZZARD just %^&*ed HORDE over again by giving the ALLIANCE a 75 riding skill epic mount and not giving one to HORDE, or did they give one to HORDE and I dont know about it? IF anyone has any information please reply to this post. Thank you.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

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Edited, Dec 22nd 2007 1:07pm by carigis

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Of course he's hostile to Horde ! He's the trainer of the special Alliance Wintersaber mount. And here is the explanation:

"Around 4,000 years ago, Tyrande Whisperwind saved the life of the frostsaber queen, at the hands of rampaging giants. Since then, the frostsabers have been allies of the night elves."
by Rivern Frostwind

But there is also a special mount for the Horde. Try the "Ravasaur Trainers" in Un'Goro Crater.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

If you're a smart monkey, as soon as you can do Winterfall Intrusion, pick them both up at the same time. On your way down to Winterfall village hit up Elder Shardtooths and Chillwind Ravagers, then on your way back as well if you didn't get all the meat you need. Then each trip will garner 150 Wintersaber Trainer faction instead of just 75... still a slog and a half though no matter what.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i hear this costs only 90g...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Did the quest, been to the turn-in three times. Got ganked while here the first time and STILL no NPC./ Got the Gold dot, no dude

Commentaire de Allakhazam

A quick note for those who have done the rep grind which I lovingly refered to as the ECK (Endless Cycle of Killing) to my friends and guild members who shook their heads at me and offered me money just to buy a elite mount and training.

Rather than kill the quest giver and his cat in frustration (I have seen this happen at least twice) as it seems that nothing has changed when you have got your rep up. You have done ALL this work FOR NOTHING ! ARRGHHH I WILL KILL YOU ! and proceed to do just that. (I must admit I now understood their frustration)

However after completing 1 quest more to ensure that I had maxed out my rep I noticed that the dialogue box now had a scroll bar and if you scroll down you will see a Purchase bag. Ready to purchase your frostsaber Mount(and sell your accumalted Junk and greens)

PS. I would dearly love as a druid to be able to buff and heal horde players, we are all players same at the keyboard

Cheers Astlea Exlies of SWG

Never Give UP NEVER SURRENDER :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

what quest do i haev to do to get exhalted with these guys? the repeatable one? i wnat that mount

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Just wanted the same confirmation here that Vansmirnoff asked for in his post:

WoW Wiki says if you're any other race besides night elf, you must also be exalted with darnassus to learn tiger riding. Is this true?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

After i read all these posts i think ill give up killing the ravagers and bears for the meet..ive been killing up to 1000/3000 (winter saber trainers)and after what i can understand i need to get to 3000 and then also excalted to darnasus?

im human priest on ravencrest.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Why doesnt he drop anything? :P

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Last time i was here, just before BC, he was hostile. Now I can talk to him, and I get "you are now Neutral with wintersaber trainers." Does this mean Horde can get this mount now?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Can I just walk up to him and purchase the Winterspring Frostsaber? Or do I have to do the quests?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Do you need to become exalted with Darn too to be able to learn tiger riding just so you can ride this one?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i dont understand why all allys have to be so rude and childish ive always played horde have a few 70 and some 60 and always wantecd this so when i heard a friend played ally i reroleed ally on his server and im now doing these and if u think the horde is blessed with not having a grind q u maybe just shouldnt do this quest it is optional and i gues there is many horde that accualy would grind there but of to get a cool special mount not to save the 1k gold wich u should have allready when u ding 60 if u havent spent everything on ah >.< so please dont say something like u dont know whats it all about and such things cuz many ppl like to grind just look at the chinese=P

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I swear to God, the price should be changed. Rich people go for multiply "average" mounts(Easy to aquire the mount riding of a diff race due to starting with Friendly and usually ending up with Honored/Revered by the time you hit 60), others go farm BGs, reach rank 11 and get the pretty 80g war mounts.
In order to get this beauty you need to do SH!TLOADS of boring quests. I think its quite unfair for people to spend loads of time farming the rep from Neutral to Exaled just to pay the same price like for the ordinary mount. Yes, it does look unique, but not worth it unless you have loads of free time, no school/work/family and youre really bored.
Id love to see a more appealing price, 50-100g for example.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

also before u decide to get the mount, getting exhalted with him to get to buy it means about doing 840! quests, not just those four :P

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Does anyone on Dragonblight have this uber sweet mount already or am I going to be the first to get it :P

Commentaire de Allakhazam

For all the time you'd put in to get exalted- you could grind to
Grand MArshal lol.

Very stupid and ridiculous requirements/quests. To just get from
nuetral to friendly- You have to do one quest (the same quest) 60
times and thats as a human with rep bonus. Which requires you to
obtain 5 chillwind meats and 5 shardtooth meats. They don't drop
every kill either- look to kill many many chillwind ravagers and
elder shardtooths. Think the droprate is 12-15% for the meat.

Only highlight I had before I gave up was a Krol blade dropped off
a ravager. If you are a skinner then grinding rep could make you
rich as all the bears-ravagers are skinnable.

But this is only the first part... Once you hit friendly you have
to start killing giants 58-60 elites.

Its way too much to expect from people. If you really want to ride
a tiger just get exalted with Darnassus instead with Runecloth turn ins.
Much easier-faster- same effect..

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Sorry Genoism but it costs 900 gold or 800 if you're at least rank 4
I have almost done it :) revered 18500/21000
Monday or Tuesday will be mine ! so happy , i'm working on it from 2 March all day 4 5 hours for day

Edited, Sat May 13 15:28:15 2006

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Is there some tips ,how can i do exalted with them ?Easy mode etc. ;) . Or i must farm until i get mad ?:D

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Hes hostile, how do i know? i killed him. lol
anyways... his lvl50 pet is stronger then most lvl60 beasts in the same area :S

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Since the patch, the only thing barring riding 'racial' mounts are racial requirements.

This mount has none. Expect to see lots of horde with this mount soon!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

delted

Commentaire de Ehayen

There is on quest giver at the provided coordinates.That is over some open water.

Rivern Givrevent <Éleveur de sabres-d'hiver>

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