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Commentaire de 8237

Herod is a Warrior. He has a Whirlwind Attack and enrages at 50% health. In addition to these two abilities if aggro goes to some one not within a small range of him (outside his little arena area at the bottom of the room) he will sprint and do a very hard hit to whoever pulled the aggro, if it crits it can one shot them easily.

When he whirlwinds have everyone run outside of melee range (even the tank) until he stops as you won't get hit. Take this opportunity to bandage if you need to. You can still hit him with ranged attacks while he does this, but not spells.

When herod dies a bunch of Scarlet Trainees will run in (level 30 non-elites with about 100-150 hp). They don't pose much of a threat at all, melee them down or AoE them down.

Commentaire de 8271

Tupac has great info but I dont use that. 1st the war aggroes while noone attacks besides the heals from healer. Then when he has 75% health the rogue and pallys come in. Then the casters come in at 70%. Then thats how we are a great guild at owning herod XD go WaSaBi!

Commentaire de 8004

Along with that info, Herod is great to farm. Level 60 rogues can easily farm him and if you have enchanting as one of yourr profs you're guaranteed a small radiant shard everytime. That's 4-5 gold on my server.

Commentaire de 7901

Things to keep in mind when fighting Herod.
- Make sure your tank has aggro before his first whirlwind, guarantees that after the whirlwind he will stay on the tank, not charge towards your DPS or healers.
- When he is in whirlwind mode he is immune to everything so just back away and stop doing anything, as its pointless anyways.
- Watch out for the enrage at 30%, he can drop a tank like a matchstick, especially if you don't back away when he is whirlwinding.

Other then that pretty easy fight.

Commentaire de 7999

This badboy can cause a lot of problems to a group if they aren't prepared. Make sure your everyone in your group is full on hp and mana before you attack. Also, make sure that the warrior gets in at least 3 sunders in, in order to maintain aggro. Otherwise, Herod will chase after your healers and spellcasters and it will be over very quickly. Also, beware of his "Blades of Light!" and back off when he does it. Otherwise, you will be destroyed in seconds.

Commentaire de 82

Spoiler Alert:

A fun little fact - if you zone into the Caverns of Time instance of Old Hillsbrads you can find little Herod (a level 5 child) as "Herod the Bully" in South Shore. He's pathing with Helcular (the later darkmage who Horde gets to unleash on Southshore) and Kel'Thuzad (still of the Kirin Tor) up and down the road.

Commentaire de 13507

He's so fucking cool! He kicks everybody's ass the lvl 60s have trouble with him alone if you ask me he's the ultimate boss (if you don't think about Ragnaros, Onyxia and more). He's the coolest he attacks my hunter al the time when he whirwinds because all g2 stay back when he does that or else your dead but hunter is ranged so they keep shooting and that will cause you get aggro ^^ and he will charge you and kill you.

Commentaire de 30359

this fight is very easy, as a hunter i mark him then just after the tank gets his 2nd hit, i cast aimed shot. then i hit rapied fire(+40% attk speed for 15sec) and unload my dps.(pet runs in with hunter) u can still unleash your dps when he is spinning just remember to pull you pet back. also as a hunter using the -5% hit chance sting is somewhat important incase herod gets loss on the healers, gives em a chance to get a free miss. all-in-all this is a VERY easy boss with no adds and awsome drops.

Commentaire de 36466

quick question. this guy drops sentinels stuff. why does he drop that if he is a scarlet fghter?

Commentaire de 37085

Fight is an easy one if you gotr the right group...
Priest
Warrior
Mage
Warlock
(anyone that'll help preferebly DPS)

I am a shadow priest but i have my healing gear which adds about 250 to my healing so I was good overall and the warrior was pretty smart he knew to keep agro and to back up when Herod did his whirlwind. and the warlock made a soulstone incase someone was to die and did some nice crits on Herod. When the level 30(non-elites) came out the mage just A.O.E'd them and I(the priest) would heal all of the guys that were on him when they were out of the A.O.E range. This fight didn't last long we got Scarlet Leggings, a Lockbox, money, and mageweave. Off the level 30'z we got (Strong Lockbox, money, and a crappy ring). That was my best run if I was running for items but me being a clothie I didn't have much use for any of the items that he droped except the mageweave and money. I got about 4G off the run but i ran it with 4 people. So if you 5 man SM-Arm, witch in most cases is un-needed unless you truly suck. But me and a 70 ran through SM-Arm. 17 times and we got the full scarlet set +2 extra pairs of gloves, + 1 extra set of leggings, and a lot of silk cloth.(Was not useful cuz i was 36 and a 300 tailor so i was "out leveled" of silk cloth) TONS of sucky green items that are good to "DE" when you run the instance a lot! Hope this helped! :D

Commentaire de 1405

As a Rogue, your "Evasion" ability has a nearly 100% chance of eluding his Whirlwind. If you feel the need to lay some extra (or finishing) DPS, this is the time.

Commentaire de 55847

All of the rare items, Ravager, Herod's Shoulder, Raging Berserker's Helm, and Scarlet Leggings, that Herod drops are sought after for warriors.

Links: Ravager- https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7717
Herod's Shoulder- https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7718#MOz
Raging Berserker's Helm- https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=7719#MOz
Scarlet Leggings- https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=10330#MOz

Commentaire de 55271

watch out when he says "light give me strength" then "blades of light!" then he does a devastating spin attack he killed me the other day with it but i was level 30 still deavestating

Commentaire de 73576

Farmable for a Rogue as early as Level 49! Here's what you do:

1. Make sure you have exceptional gear. Blazewind Breastplate, Forest Stalker Wrist, Gloves of Holy Might, Thrashblade, Shadowblade, Fiery on your weapons, etc. Basically, if you are pwning Battleground at your level, then you have the gear for this job. If you're not, then you don't.

2. Stock up on Mageweave Bandages, Combat Healing Potion, and Swiftthistle Tea.

3. Possess Talisman of Arathor and Cold Eye Basilisk.

4. Have Wound Poison IV on your weapons.

5. Your Talent Build must be geared towards the Assassination tree. You must have Cold Blood and Seal Fate 5x, and Vigor. You must also have Improved Expose Armor 2x. You must also have Evisecerate 3x.

So sneak past all the mobs in SM: Armory. Unlock Herod's door, preferrably with lockpick to level your lockpick ability up.

Before you confront Herod, remember that your stunlock will not work on him. This includes Gouge, Kidney Shot and Blind. So if you are a dagger rogue who relies on stunlock/backstab, that will not work for this fight. Replace your main-hand with something else. I prefer Thrash Blade for the job.

Open with Garrote, Cold Eye Basilisk, Sinister Strike 3x.. by now, all your energy should be gone. Use a Swiftthistle tea to bring your energy back up. Continue with SS until you get 5 combo points, and then use Expose Armor. Continue with SS, but before you can get 5 combo points Herod will unleash his first Whirlwind.

He is immune to all attacks except range when he uses Whirlwind, so take this time to Sprint away and bandage yourself. It is helpful to keybind a "target self" and "Mageweave bandage" to quickly bandage yourself. For me, I bind "target self" to keypad "D" and "Mageweave bandage" to "F" so it is simple.

After his Whirlwind is done, he will rush at you. Since you have Improved Expose Armor, he is vulnerable to your attacks for a few more seconds. Quickly build up your combo points to 5, use Cold Blood, and Eviscerate him. This should take a healthy 1600hp off of him.

After you deal this damage, he will either Whirlwind or call on "Light Give me Strength". As soon as you hear his "Light Give me Strength" voice, enable Dodge. His very first attack after calling on will be devastating, so having your Dodge up will negate his attack. Continue with SS-->Eviscerate, running away when he is using Whirlwind and attacking him with range. Since you are still freshly bandaged, the only way for you to heal yourself is with a potion. Use your pot when you have halfway health, and use your Talisman of Arathor after Dodge fades from you. Continue attacking him until he dies, quickly loot his corpse for your goods, and then use Stealth to avoid his SM lackeys.

As a note, since your Rogue relies on procs and chances to deal his damage (especially with Thrash blade) victory is never certain. Furthermore, you can enable Dodge and Herod will still have a chance of dealing a huge amount of damage to you after his "Light Give me Strength." This is still a hard fight, and I recommend soloing Herod only if you're an Enchanter who is looking to make some cash with Small Radiant Shard but you don't want to level up. Even at higher levels, this is still the template on how to defeat Herod as a Rogue.

Commentaire de brandon1998

As i was killing Herod i found that he was using "bladestorm" 4 time every quarter his health went so if you have a paladin when he is near 1 quarter of his health use Hammer Of Justice then he doesn't do it.

Commentaire de 72954

this took really long to get scarlet leggings of him.

Commentaire de HackSterReNewed

How do you summon Herod, i was there with a group and he wasnt there, we stayed there for like 10 mins he did not show...

Commentaire de Bojo

Herod is very strong for his level.

Commentaire de 81542

Herod

Hunters: After tank(s) agro use concussion shot and then any over time shots before auto shooting, having a cat would be nice. When Herod is whirl winding back off and set a freezing trap right outside of his melee range. After everyone’s health up go full throttle.

Mage: After tank(s) agro use frost nova then use most damaging spells until frost nova wears off, then you use ice moves which slow him down. When he’s whirl winding use AOE spells (blizzard would be the best.) When mobs come out while fighting or after Herod’s dead use frost nova then blizzard.

Priest: After tank(s) agro use all over time curses/spells then completely focus on healing. If someone’s going to die or you’re being aggroed by mobs sent out use psychic scream.

Rogue: when tanks go to agro stealth behind Herod and use garrote/sap which ever is better use to your party. Try and use a lot of over time spells until he enrages at 50% health. Then use high power attacks and assassinations.

Shaman: Before battle enchant everyone’s weapons to the enchantment that suites them best. Shadow behind rogues and warriors so after they agro you can use totems (fire and stoneskin/earth) then back off and use long range spells until you can’t anymore. Once he’s whirl winding use long range spells once again.

Druid: Before tanks attack use entangling roots and while their attacking heal them but focus more on long range attacks unless you’re the healer. If you’re not the healer at 50% health when he enrages shape shift into you’re most powerful form and go merciless on him.

Warlock: After tank(s) agro send out pet with hunter and use all over time spells, curses and stuns (use stuns after everyone’s slowdowns wear off) then use all powerful attacks. If running low on health or mana use drains.

Warrior: Use demoralizing shout disarm and make sure you’re in berserker stance at the beginning. Use as much high power attacks as possible then once he’s almost dead use execute. Change stances if needed to and use as much things as possible to stop him from using whirlwind. At start run in to agro.

Paladin: Run in and use consecration (if protection spec use all blessings/spells and if your retribution use your seal with blessing of might.) With warrior try and stop him from using whirlwind. Once low in health use shields and heal and re buff.

Party: All back off in group in a corner if you have a hunter when he is whirl winding so he’ll definitely fall into the hunters trap. Pay a little attention to the priest to so if he’s running low someone can switch off with him.

Commentaire de 66761

i kill him alone with a enh shammy lvl 57 but when the pat came they kill me cuz i was have no mana and hp

Commentaire de 76684

Farming him with 55 warrior without any problem.
Just passing the mobs on the way.

Commentaire de 90657

This is my comment from thott, although Herod is "easy", when you're with a group of silly people, he can hurt, so here is my strat:

When you first reach Herods room, make sure everyone is full HP/Mana, buff everyone too.

Healers need to stay very alert, this guy truly hits like a truck.

Have the tank jump down to Herod and let him engage the fight, other DPS classes shouldn't start doing the damage right away, let the Warrior (or any other "tank") do some threat Damage and then start doing the damage. This is because Herod really hits heavy, Rogues should stay alert and don't grab his aggro, because the healer will quickly run out of mana for you.

Herod only has 2 abilities, one of them is really important and you should ALWAYS alert your group about it:
- When he yells "Blades of Light!" EVERYONE stop doing damage to him and back off from his range, he will engage in a spinning move that will eat your HP like a fat kid on pie. Take advantage of this though, he will stop for a few seconds for this attack and as long you are away from him, you can use bandages and save the healer some mana.

His other ability ( you can't really do anything about it) is when he yells "Light give me strength!" he will enrage (something like Blood Fury) and do even more damage, he will only use this later in the fight so healer pay extra attention to this.
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Tips:
Stay in the ground, don't use the stairs, healers might miss the healing spells because you are running around like an idiot.

Hunters are the only ones that can damage Herod when he does his spinning move, Arcane shot won't work but the normal Auto shoot will, so use that.
Don't forget to call your pets when he starts his spinning move.

Make sure you have potions ready, early healers might run out of mana and that's never a good thing, use bandages when he does his spinning attack as well.
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Herod has over 10k of HP, and he his partially immune to fire/frost/etc. It will be a long fight.

When you finally down him, loot him immediately and roll fast, the room will get flooded by lvl 20 peasants who only have 100 hp, but if your group struggled against Herod, they can sometimes hurt.
Either way they are quite easy to kill, just concentrate your group in one place and use a AoE. They will die fast enough. Check every body because one of them usually has a Scarlet Tabard, for all you fashion freaks out there :).

Hope this helps.

Commentaire de 91650

He seems to spawn a bunch of elite adds if the fight begins with people outside his room. Anyone care to confirm or disprove this?

Commentaire de Chronius

Has blizzard added something new to Herod?
Cause my group did Herod 3 times and on the third time he summoned 4 Scarlet champions, the ones you fight inside the cathedral. We ofc wiped and when we returned they were all lined up in the corridor leading down to herods door, standing side by side.

Commentaire de Silverado

As of patch 2.3.0, Herod is now a level 37 elite.

Commentaire de Lightcloud

Herod is great for farming small radiant shards, I, as a hunet lvl 57, can run to him, and fiegn death if i aggro, and fight him, take his drop, and disenchant it, and the shards sell for about 10g in ah, i can do this about 4 or 5 times till it say u have entered to many instances, easily make money for epic mount since if u can do it good, u can do it in like 6 min.

Commentaire de 112754

He was lvl40 elite, SM armory.

Has great abilities.

Solved him with lvl40 hunter, lvl 40 rogue and lvl 40 warrior. =)
Dropped helm, next time shoulders.

Pants rarely dropped, done it 4 times, always dropped shoulders or helm.

Commentaire de 119618

I did this dungeon at lvl 38 hunter with a lvl 37 rouge and a lvl 39 priest

Commentaire de 119618

i killed him and he droped all 4 blues at 1 time of killin him

Commentaire de Nightbringer

Just a little tidbit- Herod once had a unique in-combat voice that could only be found on a few mobs in the game. I'm not sure what patch changed this, but he now has the male human voice.

Commentaire de 122120

Easiest way to farm fiery chant mats i can do this guy in 4 mins ( whole armory) on a 70 loc and if you run it 4 times and DE the drops and nstantly have the shards. saves money.

Commentaire de Juggernot

for those of you who like a little background from the real world, this guy is named after Herod the Roman, who the Romans appointed leader of Judaea, Idumea and Environs--if he could conquer it!

In 37 B.C. he attacked Jerusalem and after his victory, the golden eagle of Rome was raised above the temple gate.

Commentaire de 73751

Young Herod can be found in Old Hillsbrad foothills in the Caverns of Time.
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/npc=20360

Commentaire de 158073

I love it when I see dumb hunters using this guy's gear. The Armor is bad for them, but the axe is worse than having no weapon at all.

The Armor has strength which = very bad for hunters.
The Weapon adds no stats, and in pvp if you go to wing clip and it procs you're !@#$ed :D

Commentaire de 91138

I did a run with my 39 Retribution Pally and a 63 warrior friend to try and get the axe, I have the rest of the Scarlet set so I want this to complete it.

We got to Herod and I wanted to see if I could solo him, so I gave it a go. Used Retribution Aura and Blessing of might, 1H weapon (Ardent Custodian) + Shield; this gives me 2767 health and 1500 mana. I attacked using a Judgement of the crusader and Blessing of Command, which I judged and refreshed as often as possible.

I backed off and healed or bandaged myself everytime he did whirlwind and used mana pot twice, also had to use Lay on Hands, but I got him down completely on my own with about 10% health and no mana left. Just enough time to bandage and mana pot for the trainee's.

I may be extremely well geared but he was easier than I thought he would be considering he has 11000 health, just back off when he whirlwinds and use the opportunty to heal and bandage.

He dropped the shoulder for about the 10th time, I've seen the legs about 4 or 5 times and the helm a few times too. I think it knows I want the axe!

Commentaire de Thottbot

kk like come on, we all know the Herod is easy just like everything else in the monestary. the only thing good there for spell casters is the illsosonary rod and the staff of jordan if it drops.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Heh, I really cannot understand why some people think he is hard.

I killed him with...

- 35 Paladin (myself)
- 36 Rogue
- 34 Druid (not even Restoration Specced)
- 35 Warrior
- 34 Hunter

With ease.

Oh well, I got the Shoulders. Two levels and I'm up and rolling.

And on a sidenote, this Instance gives really good EXP. If you take the Library and Armoury, it should be enough to get you a half level at around 35 (if your group is close to your level, that is).

I guess I will need to get a 60 to run me through it if I seriously want that axe. Drop chances are simply too low for it to pay off when in a normal group.

Oh, and when fighting him, Paladins, have Righteous Fury ON! You are the ones best geared for taking the damage here, actually.

Healers and casters, stay in the back.

Oh, and note when you've killed him, "Trainees" will attack you. Not Elite, if I remember correctly, so should be easy enough.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Here's an interesting tidbit that I bet no one here knew that I got to find out while farming for my Scarlet tabard: Herod is immune to Thunderfury's proc.

So, you know, for all you level 30-40-somethings out there... make sure your tank knows.

Commentaire de Thottbot

After watching a video of a 57 Resto Druid Soloing I decide to try. Im 52 full feral spec atm. It was very easy. Get him on the main floor and STAY away whenever he does the spinning move with his blades. If your a druid or a pally you have a decent amount of time to heal. (Only had to heal once myself) Any strong melee specced class 50+ should be able to kill him fine. If your wear cloth I'd stay away (unless your a frost mage) ;o)

Oh yeah...there is a wall on the main floor (straight ahead if when your coming in the room). Afer you kill him run over to the wall...the adds wont see you and will run down on the main floor. Just AOE spam and ur done. Each one only has like 100hp.

Commentaire de Thottbot

tanked him at lvl36 :)
just spam shield block to avoid crushing blows and back off during the whirlwind. easy.

Commentaire de Thottbot

dropped the green tower ravager and hol shroud!

Commentaire de Thottbot

I hate all these people trying to make themselves look bad ass on forums saying, "yeah i soloed sm arm at level 12 it's so easy!" god just admit this guy is really hard, but beatable with a good group.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I'm a 41 feral druid. I just needed Herod to finish my quest and couldn't find a group. So I stealthed in up to his door. killed the mob across from the door and the pat. (I died twice cause they ran and aggroed other groups but I got those guys down.) After I rezed and stealthed back to his door, I stood as far away from the door as I could to change form to open the door, than changed back to Cat, and stealthed in to his room. I soloed him. When he went into his spinny thing, "blades of light" I backed off and hit my Instant HoT and Regrowth, (a 2 sec cast, its a HoT with some upfront heal) and switched back into bear to comtinue the fight. I had to use a mana pot, and I had to inervate myself but I got him. I had time to switch to Cat form and stealth while the little guys ran in. I went to the point farthest from them, changed back to druid form, they didn't aggro. So I set up hurricane, and it killed a bunch of them before they canceled my channeling, I switched back to bear and killed the rest easily. They really don't have hardly any HP. Too bad he doesn't drop anything for druids or i might just farm him. At least until the druid nerf patch comes out. /cry

Commentaire de Thottbot

I dont understand, Ravager sucks for hunters.. cause hunters need stats, thats all they need. And ravager got no stats! So hunters should rather use a green or a other weapon with stats (agi/AP/stam/int) MUCH better than ravager!

Commentaire de Thottbot

The only real dangerous thing is when he does his whirlwind move. He'll scream, "Blades of Light!". You then have about half a second to move away from him, about from the middle of the room to the stair. If you have a melee pet or minion, make sure to get it out of the way as well. Make sure the tank gets Herod focused on him, or your healer will probably get owned with a few swings of his Ravager axe.

I believe Herod is immune to magic spells while he is spinning in whirlwind, but not immune to normal ranged attacks. (As a hunter, I was able to shoot him with auto-shoot but my Arcane Shot always fails.)

After he dies, around 20 or so Scarlet Trainees come in and rush to attack. Just use any AoE spell (Explosive trap the entrance of the room when Herod is almost dead), and they die within seconds. They have a really, really small chance to drop the Scarlet Tabard, which is a cool tabard that is red in color.

Commentaire de Thottbot

After doing Armory for 2 days now (I want some of his stuff for my enhancement Shammy)

So far I have only got the leggings and the Scarlet belt, everything else was won by other people :(.

Anyway, here is my strategy, I'll try to cover everything.

When you first reach Herods room, make sure everyone is full HP/Mana, buff everyone too.

Healers need to stay very alert, this guy truly hits like a truck.

Have the tank jump down to Herod and let him engage the fight, other DPS classes shouldn't start doing the damage right away, let the Warrior (or any other "tank") do some threat Damage and then start doing the damage. This is because Herod really hits heavy, Rogues should stay alert and don't grab his aggro, because the healer will quickly run out of mana for you.

Herod only has 2 abilities, one of them is really important and you should ALWAYS alert your group about it:
- When he yells "Blades of Light!" EVERYONE stop doing damage to him and back off from his range, he will engage in a spinning move that will eat your HP like a fat kid on pie. Take advantage of this though, he will stop for a few seconds for this attack and as long you are away from him, you can use bandages and save the healer some mana.

His other ability ( you can't really do anything about it) is when he yells "Light give me strength!" he will enrage (something like Blood Fury) and do even more damage, he will only use this later in the fight so healer pay extra attention to this.
---
Tips:
Stay in the ground, don't use the stairs, healers might miss the healing spells because you are running around like an idiot.

Hunters are the only ones that can damage Herod when he does his spinning move, Arcane shot won't work but the normal Auto shoot will, so use that.
Don't forget to call your pets when he starts his spinning move.

Make sure you have potions ready, early healers might run out of mana and that's never a good thing, use bandages when he does his spinning attack as well.
---
Herod has over 10k of HP, and he his partially immune to fire/frost/etc. It will be a long fight.

When you finally down him, loot him immediately and roll fast, the room will get flooded by lvl 20 peasants who only have 100 hp, but if your group struggled against Herod, they can sometimes hurt.
Either way they are quite easy to kill, just concentrate your group in one place and use a AoE. They will die fast enough. Check every body because one of them usually has a Scarlet Tabard, for all you fashion freaks out there :).

Hope this helps.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have a weird question, I have done SM armory about a 1000 times it feels like and tonight while we were killing herod a mob of about 4 elites showed up in the middle of it. It was not the 20 easy ones that show up at the end it was just a random spawning mob. Are they a rare spawn or could have a level 31 in our group may have agroed them from far down the instance?

Commentaire de Thottbot

for any healers/squishies(anythin less than mail) planning to take on this guy with a team, don't be an idiot and run down the stairs, just remember you can always jump off the ledge if he comes running for ya :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

herod is easy as we beat him with a 37 warrior (me) and 37 holy palli and a 39 retribution palli no one got anywhere near dyinig but his helm never drops for me which is anoying

Commentaire de Thottbot

usin his axe against him is fun, then against his trainees but at 70 the proc kills him in like 3 hits, then his trainees come out and the proc kills all of them, and lookin at the bodies is hilarious

70 ret/holy pally

Commentaire de Thottbot

well uhh my friend and i just 2manned him (32 pally and 37 pally<-tank/me)
all we did was tank and spank, then when he screamed at me i moved 5 yards away and used flash of light thats about it

heres some screenies

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o186/Bonecruncher_bucket/WoWScrnShot_101007_221949.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o186/Bonecruncher_bucket/WoWScrnShot_101007_221843.jpg

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o186/Bonecruncher_bucket/WoWScrnShot_101007_221757.jpg

Commentaire de Thottbot

8/10 herod has dropped ravager for me, 1/10 the leggings, and the helm 1/10

Commentaire de Thottbot

due to patch 2.3 his level has been changed from 40 to 37 (to make the level of the instance more narrow apparently). i would just like to point that out if anyone would like to change his description (i don't know how to).

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have his shoulder but it's not the best option for me anymore, i'm a lvl 37 hunter and soon getting mail armor but i got great leather shoulders from Revelosh, they are Revelosh' Spaulders(or something) of the Monkey and they have +8 agility, +8 Stamina +another stack of stamina, +10 stamina! Good i guess... Then i don't want scarlet leggigns, i have better ones made of leather but they have about +15 stam and maybe +11 agi. They're oilskin leggings. And i don't want ravager, i have better two handed sword and for dual wield i'll have swords of omen and something, dunno. Compare Stoneslayer to Ravager, which one do you think you'd choose? i <3 Uldaman!

Commentaire de Thottbot

heard the guys that come after you kill him have a chance to drop a rare tabard

Commentaire de Thottbot

hes not too hard. Ive had several runs thorugh sm arm...ravager never popped up once, got bout 4 shoulders 3 helms 2 scarlet legs. and i think thottbot's drop rate is off on the discription of herod. it says 16% or so when its 2.8% i believe. when i read 16% i had renewed hope :). only to be crushed :(.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Very easy now, Soloed him/arms on my 38 prot pally. Seal of light/judge light up the whole time. Save mana for heals while he's doing his aoe, still has a lot of hp so save that mana for heals & don't unload dps spells.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

my level 34 druid and my level 47 rogue friend duoed Herod. We didnt die. I did run out of mana though.......... But herod isnt as hard as he is said to be. either that or we are really good players lol

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Actually he summons about 30

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This guy is easy to solo (for wars I think), just run away when he uses "blades of light", bandage, repeat, repeat, done. When the lvl 30 mobs come use retaliation (one or two hit for each and they're done).

Edited, Feb 24th 2007 1:59am by Redtotem

Commentaire de Allakhazam

It was quite hard to get to him. But was easy to kill him with a level 38 paladin. I've killed him 4 times already :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I noticed that a 60 pally in my guild uses Ravager to AE when we are goin through the Suppresion room in Black wing lair. So, I decided to go get one for myself so far i have killed him 15 times and it hasnt dropped yet. I am a 60 pally and go in the Armory kill the first two guards and if i am careful and not aggro any mobs on the way can make it directly to him. I kill him pretty quick and if i crit enough a push my dps i dont need to heal. this can all be done in a matter of minutes... so wish me luck as i go try to get it. =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

ok,ravager can,on hit,make you spin around on your foot really fast with your blade out and i know this cause ive seen a shaman with it in RFD and it owned!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

may a lvl 60 mage and a lvl 34 shaman can wipe all of SM including Herod

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ok this fight was actually a bit harder than i thought. Me (38 war) and a lvl 60 warlock with VW used like 2 minutes to beat him. He resisted ALL of my charge/intercepts and i had to run around in the room all the time to catch up with him attacking the warlock and VW

He has an ability called Rushing Charge he does several times when he switches aggro. He was immune to most of the warlocks spells (thus the fight taking such a long time) and he has loads of armor! His spinning hitted me once for 400 dmg when he was in enrage! We finally got him (got the shoulders) without big problems :)..

15 secs after, around 25-30 lvl 30s (non elite) come running down the stairs. First half of them aggroed me and the other half aggroed the warlock.. Suddenly all of them were on me (no idea why they switched aggro), and then i popped a retaliation! BANG, ALL of them dead in 1 second - they only seem to have around 150 hp :D Pretty cool to watch, and nice XP :D

Edited, Jun 29th 2006 at 6:41pm EDT by Pasch

Commentaire de Allakhazam

About every third cast that I put on Herod, he would resist one which was probably the highest ratio I'd seen yet with my 40 mage. However, we had a couple good tanks so I was able to get a lot of shots off anyways. He only came for me once, but the design of the room is nice because it allowed me to run a circuit and train him back to the tanks very easily.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

1st: he seems to be immune to shadow magic so warlocks and shadow priests... :(
2nd: when he uses Blades of Light he is immune to any magic so don't cast spells at him when he's using them.
3d: when he dies he summons a bunch of lvl 30 Trainees, not elite. (maybe 10 of them). Easy to kill with spells like Blizzard, Rain of Fire or Hellfire.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

When he uses his whirlwind attack just move to the other side of the room and you should only be hit with one-two hits of it.

As the other poster said be ready with some sort of AE ability after he dies. When I saw it I thought I was dead (the other paladin dropped in the middle of the fight). Luckily I had a Goblin Fishing Pole that made short work of it :)

42 Paladin and 38 Paladin

Edited, Fri Jan 7 02:15:46 2005

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Last weekend a fellow guild member, my boyfriend, and I trioed the armory. We were a 38 druid, 38 paladin, and 37 mage. We wiped once and it took about 2 hours.

We went with in with another druid and warrior at first, but then the druid purposely ran ahead and aggroed a group of mobs when we were fighting so we wiped. He and his warrior friend then logged out. So we decided to try to do it on our own. Took some careful planning, but we did it relatively easily. The mage died once, but we rezed him and all was well. The best thing about it was when we beat Herod we got the Ravager for the paladin :D

I've fought him four times now, 3 times scarlet leggings dropped, and just once the ravager.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I was in a group on 5 and i was healer non of us die

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Entangling roots can only be used outside.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

first time getting up to herod just now. i was on top of the ramp healing and when we finnally killed him i see like 50billion of those fricken scaret peasents come and im like oh $%^&, so i ran out of the room aggroed a pat and got killed. oh well one ofem dropped the tabard and he dropped the leggings so ill be pretty happy at 40 =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Theres no way ravager has a 12% drop rate
i been in the bloody instnace and killed him 57 time already and it hasnt dropped once and it really pissing me off

any ideas?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

get back whenever he starts spinning because he does insane damage to everyone by him when he spins, he'll kill you in a matter of seconds. I think he's immune to spells while spinning too. once he's dead a bunch of wimps come out and you can either aoe them or not it doesn't matter they only have like 10 health and do like 5 damage.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

My group was destroying him when a couple guys named something like "scarlet minion"'s came in the door and killed me(hunt) from behind, they then progressed to our healer and tanks. It has taught me the real life leason to close your doors.

has anyone elsehad this experience?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Damnit, Iv killed him 3 times, and 2 times, he dropped legging, and once some other crap I didnt need. Leggings is good once, but I need Helm, and Soulders im less then 1 bar away for 37, and it would be kick ass to get that stuff.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

The "event" after Herod dies is still one of my favorites places to spam whirlwind/cleave as a 60 warrior =)

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Both at 38, A paladin friend of mine and I duo'd Herod with no problems, Takes far longer to take out the patrols and other mobs on the way there when fighting 3 at a time then to take out this guy. Basically, I charge in and if he doesn't get stunned the paladin drops in and uses consecration, then judgements seal of light onto herod and puts seal of wisdom on himself. Just hitting hit with regular melee hits until he starts to spin, back off wait for him to charge, then start the chain over again. Paladin never ran out of mana and we got the helmet to drop.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

went in with 42 warrior def stance, 39 warrior dmg stance, 37 rogue, 39 mage, 41 druid.

Cleaned Armory in 15 mins.
At Herod just avoid his cleave he will start with "Blades of Light!".
Go outside the cleave range, cuz he doesnt move in that time...
Attack him when he isnt whirling around. Tooks us 2 mins. Healer-dudu only needed to heal the 42 tanking warrior 3-4 times.
Rogues kidney shot and warriors mace talent save alot of Heal mana ;) .

Commentaire de Allakhazam

hurricaning the students is my favorite passtime.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Firey War Axe dropped first Arm run on my hunter :D

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This guy is a viable target for gold farming.

If you are level 60, you can run through the entire SM Armory aggro'ing only 2 mobs.

I've done this twice before, the 2 mobs are the very first ones.

After that, go through the courtyard up the middle and go through.
There are 3 potentially sticky areas.

1. Patrols, if you're not sure, aggro them in between groups and kill them.
2. There's an area near the end where there's 2 on the left, 2 on the right, and not enough space through the middle. But if you go the left, over the cannons and various doodads, you can avoid aggro.
3. The last hallway, you have to be very careful not the aggro the groups or the patrol there.

From zoning in to getting to Herod shouldn't take you more than 3-4 minutes.
Once you kill him, he has a 100% chance of dropping a blue item that will net you a small radiant shard.

Then you have to kill the adds and run out, which takes another 4 minutes or so.

Leave instance, and find someone who will group with you just to reset instance.

~10 minutes for a small radiant shard.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I went to the Scarlet Monastery this weekend for the first time with my 35 Paladin and a lvl 70 friend. We killed Herod twice, the first time dropping the Ravager and the shoulders on the second kill. I was told it was a rare drop on Ravager, but I did not realize how rare till I checked the website. Nice!

Gilhedrine
37 Paladin
Alleria Realm
Guild "The Magnificent Seven"

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Which instance is this guy in?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Herod is actually pretty easy.

Well ... almost.

He has relatively low HP for a mob of his level, but he has the ability to make an entire party go squish ...

You start to wear his HP down pretty fast, but once he hits ~60% health, he starts immunizing against a pretty whole lot of spells and abilities, and repeatedly uses the proc his axe (Ravager) has. He starts spinning, dealing 800-1000 Area damage every 5 seconds or so. When I (as a 37 Pala) did this with 3 Rogues and a Hunter, the Hunter pet-tanked and stayed in ranged combat, and all rogues went tank.

It starts to get pretty hectic if you are the only healer, since all people down there suddenly drop from 100 % to ... 30 ?

8 heals later, he stops spinning ... well ... mostly because he is pretty much ... you know ... dead ... that tends to make people stop most of their actions ^_^

Well, I broke into a happy dance since I got the Raging Berserker Helm. Yay for the 1% crit increase :)

Well, then, if it's your first time doing Herod, prepare for a heart attack. I almost got one, since I was pretty much out of mana (AND had used both Lay on Hands and a mana potion) ...

Two of the rogues died, as they had only 15% health AND were pretty much deadlagged by that :)

Well, in the end I ressed them and we proceeded to trounce the evil Scarlet Commander and the High Inquisitor

Rowena of Mal'Ganis, European ones ^^

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i've killed herod about 3 times, beeing a warlock 41 and 42
First two times it was very easy.

But the third one was quite difficult. We were a mage, druid , priest and me, warlock 42 by that time. First time we tried to tank with the druid in bear mode, while the priest healed him and the mage and me nuked him. It was a total disaster, coz we the casters lost half of our mana while he was in "blades of light" being inmune. Second time it was pretty similar.
But the third time we killed him very easy and fastly using my void and healing him with the priest while the mage nuked him and i cursed, dotted, inmolated, shadowbolted, searingpained, and everything you can find on your spellbook.

What i don't understand is that with a SINGLE shadowbolt i always take the aggro of the mobs. But i throwed at herod everything i had and he didn't come to kill me, strange...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

i fought him 5 times now and he dropped shoulder 4 times(helmet once), and once i died when we should roll for shoulder, and the rest of the times i lost the roll to some rogue or hunter or even mage once...

oh well...

IRL sux...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

my level 34 druid and my level 47 rogue friend duoed Herod. We didnt die. I did run out of mana though.......... But herod isnt as hard as he is said to be. either that or we are really good players lol

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this guy is like really easy to solo for a decent(blue/green mixed) geared lvl druid(lvl 50 could be fine as well)

just prowl through the whole instance... get to him, before attacking use enrage(to get a small starting rage pool, improved enrage is very helpful cause it generates 30 rage instead of 20)
just start spamming maul, if his ravager procs... don't worry, if you're in bear form it only hits for 160 damage(how weak ^^)
if he's enraged for about 230 damage
when he dies, loot, get into caster form, barkskin, hurricane, done...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

This is a ranged fight. A group of friends and I have killed him succesfully 2 of 3 times. 40 warrior, 37 shaman, 37 rogue, 36 warlock, and 34 shaman. The first time we all rushed him, and he AE'd us for up to 1000 damage a shot. In other words, we didnt stand a chance. At the time, we were also all 2 levels lower. You will need a lot of ranged DPS. We had none - a warlock and the rogue using ranged to do damage while the warrior tanked is about all we had. Because of our low DPS both shamans took turns healing, leaving a mana stream totem down to recover mana. On our first win, both shamans were OOM (though both still had a potion they could use for more, it just wasn't needed) On our second attempt, each shaman was full by the time the previous shaman ran out of Mana, we coulda fought him for hours!

Once Herod dies, the fun begins, res any dead quickly, and make sure you have some mana.

I dont want to ruin the suprise, as this next part isnt a big challenge although it scared me to death the first time. Here's my hint: Warlocks have a very nice AE that will trivialize anything that comes after Herod ^^

Edited, Fri Dec 17 03:41:08 2004

Commentaire de Allakhazam

43 rogue and 42 druid. aggroed the whole outside hall, and died 2x then died once to herod. druid just healed, battle rez'd me the 2nd time so i could finish him.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I ran through the armory a few times with the help of a level 68 friend and some other 30ish people. I got great experience and drops, and its fun. If you can get a high level, its amazing xp. But onto the point. As a hunter when the 30's came down after killing him, i layed down an explosive trap and did a 100+ on all of them. I think they have low hp because once the trap was set off they all died. A great way to get rid of them, or just use any AoE spell

Commentaire de Allakhazam

me and a group of friends killed him 4 times we found the helmet the shoulders and the legs 2 times

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Is it possible for a level 49 Shaman to solo him?
I am enhancement/resto specc'ed. with 3007 hitpoints and 2750 mana points. 3750 armor with shield.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I was in a group of 3 all of us were lvl 35, and we managed to get through the entire dungeon without one wipe.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Actually it's quite simple to kill him solo - just stay away from him when he starts twisting, and heal/bandage while he doesn't attack you. I've been doing this with my pally since level 57, great way to farm small radiants which are ~3-6g/shard, and with one run taking not more than 10 minutes, you can get up to 5 shards per hour. Too bad it prolly won't work anymore after next patch.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I just realized what the Firey Blaze enchantment is for.

So a warrior can AE using this axe.

Brr, sickness personified.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I am interested of the Ruthless Shiv the polearm that is said it drops by herod
and i would like to know about how often the polearm drops by Herod the scarlet
champion.Someone can answer?

Nightmaster 36 lvl NE hunter

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I personally think those who say this gut is easy to solo are talking complete crap. I have a lvl 57 Rogue and this guy has wiped me tthree times. His spin attacks still reduce my HP whenI am nowhere near him -Kinda P***es me off to hear about tho big muvers who can solo him at lvl 40 - Yea right !

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Just solo'd this guy as a level 45 orc rogue, using Vanquishers Sword and Sword of Omen, both with fiery enchants. I stealthed through the whole Armoury. The first time i tried this I died, leaving Herod with only 2,000 HP left. My second attempt, i started out with a Garrote, and by spamming Sinister Strike until I had 5 CP, and then casuing Rupture to him. Whenever i got low on HP, i used a Major Healing Potion. When Herod uses 'Blades of Light' and begins to spin round, move away and bandage yourself to full HP, for example I moved to the top of the stairs and used Heavy Runecloth Bandage. After he died, I looted Herods Shoulder, and vanished because i didn't want to fight the mob of trainee's :)

My guild was as shocked as i was. But this shows it was possible.

Razorwing - 45 Orc Rogue - Thunderhorn EU

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Seems to be disarmable =D, try to do so as in his case he deals a lot less damage.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I'm a lvl 53 hunter and think I'll give him a shot solo. Has anyone done this?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Herod is found in the Armory; the Armory is the instance behind the pair of doors that are on the right side.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Well if you want to farm CM on L60 he is very easy for rogue at least. Just loot him and vanish. Quickly!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

when herod does the spinning attack is that whole action count as him physically moving cause i'm curious if a druid's entangling roots could prevent him from doing that? oh well

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when herod does the spinning attack is that whole action count as him physically moving cause i'm curious if a druid's entangling roots could prevent him from doing that? oh well

EDIT:whoops forgot your inside :P

Edited, Wed Mar 16 20:23:10 2005

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What lvl mobs is there in SM?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Just soloed armory / Herod as a 44 hunter. It was quite a challenge but very do-able. The grind into boss chambers took just over an hour, and you can't skip any mobs except maybe out in the first courtyard. Killing Protectors and Myrmidons first will let pet live long enough to finish off Guardsmen and Defenders, respectively. The Protectors especially are nasty as they heal themselves. Pet did die 3-4 times, usually only when there were 3 groups of lvl 38 elites or if I had a runner I couldn't get a concussion shot off on.

Herod himself was a quick fight that I only barely squeezed my way out of. I used greater agility and greater intellect pots which put my ranged attack power at 720 and mana pool right around 3000. The mana was critical because I had to heal my pet 6-8 times. Sent pet in first, then kept serpent stinged, used Bestial Wrath then Intimidation, and kept nailing him from range while my poor broken tooth cat took a beating. Finally at around 2%, I was out of mana and my pet died, leaving me to deliver the last 2 blows to take him down. Then quickly bandaged, took mana pot, shadowformed and waited for the zerg. Used Volley to take all but a few of the students out, then finished them off and ended fight with 50% health, dead pet, and Raging Berserker's Helm which will probably just go in my bank...

Markin 44 NE Hunter twink, Azjol-Nerub

Commentaire de Allakhazam

How easy is he to solo as a lvl 60 Warlock?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Made my way though the instance solo as a 60 warrior and got to the door....DoH! No key! Re- ran the library and got the key. Yet to go back but soloing the monestary is my new favorite grind. Nice cash'n'trash, plenty of greens for my wife's enchanter to burn and silk out the wazoo....171 pieces between library and gy last time. You have tailor alts/guildies, get yer butt over there. And it is a challenge solo, espcially if you pull a group w/ 3 priests all healing one another....let a runner get away and hope you have retaliation up.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I was in a group of 3 all of us were lvl 35, and we managed to get through the entire dungeon without one wipe.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

He seems to crit quite a lot ^^

Commentaire de Allakhazam

In my honest opinion Herod is probably the easiest boss(could you call him a boss?) I have ever fought. My group was so godlike it wasn't even funny. It was me (lvl 37 hunter) a lvl 37 priest, a lvl 43 warrior, a lvl 36 warrior, and a lvl 39 shaman. When we got the The Hall of Champions our plan didnt really go according to. The main plan was for the warriors and shaman to rush herod while I supplied ranged fire and my pet fought with them, the priest was on heal and buff duty along with some occasional shadow magic shots. The real event actually happened when I pulled an aimed shot at Herod and he rushed at me. It wasnt too bad ,but i'm not much of a meleer. So i wing clipped him backed up and he eventually focussed on the warriors and shaman. I did an assortment of shots(in order, aimed, serpent sting, arcane shot) I also had rapid fire on. So after we killed him we rolled on the loot(ravager) and the warrior got it. We beat up the trainees and went too the cathedral, done deal

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If you cannot get through here with a couple 40+'s then that is sad. I did it in a group of 5. It was a 31 Orc Shaman, 34 Tauren Shaman (Me), 34 Troll Priest, 36 Troll Warrior, and a 39 Tauren Druid. It was really easy. And we only had 1 death throughout the Armory, Library, and Graveyard. That death was our warrior when we were up against Herod. Our priest was out of mana, I think, and I was also out. And the 31 Shaman didn't do good healing (Even though she was off-healer)because of her level.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this guy is like really easy to solo for a decent(blue/green mixed) geared lvl druid(lvl 50 could be fine as well)

just prowl through the whole instance... get to him, before attacking use enrage(to get a small starting rage pool, improved enrage is very helpful cause it generates 30 rage instead of 20)
just start spamming maul, if his ravager procs... don't worry, if you're in bear form it only hits for 160 damage(how weak ^^)
if he's enraged for about 230 damage
when he dies, loot, get into caster form, barkskin, hurricane, done...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

my 36 hunter 36 warrior 41 warrior 36 pally and 36 mage couldnt take him. down. we hall died somehow. well it was also my first time. but whe we died whole instance reapwns what bull si that

Commentaire de Allakhazam

2 44s managed to solo him 44 enchant shaman and 44 beast specced hunter never died exacept when all those stupid adds came out

Commentaire de Allakhazam

He seems to be immune to magic effects (a warlock's shadow and fire spells) when he is doin' the twirlie...

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I solo him regularly for the small radiants I can DE from his drops.
I'm a lvl 49 combat rogue engineer with about 2400HP unbuffed. I can stealth to him in about two minutes. I'm fairly twinked so I may have that slight advantage.

Pickpocket mobs along the way to pick up pots to use during the fight.

I open up with garrote -> SS -> SS -> SS then Rupture before he starts his first whirlwind.

Get out of range (you should barely have taken dmg at this point. When he's through repeat the process.

Between each whirlwind I use either evasion, gnomish shrink ray, my PvP bubble trinket or Adrenaline Rush. Never at the same time if possible. He gets enraged after about his 3rd whirlwind. Thats a good time to use evasion...

Riposte is a lifesaver, use it every time its up, bandage during his whirlwind if necessary.

Loot, stealth and wait for his pack o wimps to show up. One easy throw dynamite will drop them all if you aggro them into a nice pile.

Rinse repeat for easy small radiants...

Commentaire de Plodix

If you are a hunter, place an explosive trap quickly after Herod dies. It will kill all of the adds gloriously. They will barely survive the initial explosion with a rank 1 trap and the dot will finish them pretty fast.

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