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Commentaire de deathbywow

Holy crap... I'm surprised there isn't any comments on this... 70 AP is gross!! Gawd think of all the lvl 39 twinks...

Commentaire de 15539

Just got this bad boy on my Blackened Spear from Thrallmar exalted, so amazing.

Commentaire de 6446

What color does the enchant give?

Commentaire de Gtwin

Confirmed. This enchant has no graphical effect.

Commentaire de Harbinger

The black glow on screenshot comes with the weapon. There is a reason its called "Blackened Spear" :P

Commentaire de Hunturn

Recipe dropped for me in Shattered Halls, just need 20 more skill and I can start enchanting this baby ;).

Commentaire de 19116

Do you think you would rather have this? or +35 agility? For a hunter, btw. Agililty would only add 35 AP but adds crit chance, as well as armor, but this only adds 70 AP. I don't know, but im leaning towards this one.

Commentaire de 20602

I would rather take the 35agi and 1% to crit. My spec gives me 17% more agi from gear.

2% from combat exp
15% from lighting reflex

So I get more from agility.

Commentaire de 27362

As a hunter you have to be reliant on atk power. The 1% crit and small amount of armor you get fromt he 35 agi enchant is negligable in comparison to the whopping 70 atk power. AGI is just not that great anymore. Imagine a 70 atk power enchant on something like the Howling warsong axe or Sonic Spear. Insane atk power from a two hand weapon.

Commentaire de 9020

I am not sure about for warrior for this enchant should I go for +35 agi or 70AP.

+35 gives Crit, Dodge, Armor
+70 is just AP +5dps on Warrior.

Commentaire de Protagonist

It angers and confuses me that this enchant has no graphics.

Commentaire de 18541

The hunters in my guild agree that 35 Agility > 70AP because of the 0,9% crit

Commentaire de 16848

For Hunters 35 agi is probably better because that will give them 35 attack power AND nearly 1%, and once you have high RAP, Hunter damage scales very well with higher crit chance. There's also the fact that crit is much more useful to hunters in PvP for burst damage from strings of crits (as well as extra dodge).
For Warriors (especially fury), this is undoubtedly better than 35 agi, for the reasons given above.
For ret spec Paladins it would be a toss up, since crit benefits them a lot more than Warriors (vengeance), and ret gear in general tends to lack agi/crit, but I'd still say that the majority would go with 70 attack power.

Commentaire de Tangles

Definite confirmation, in content patch 2.1.0, Savagery now has a bright red glow

Commentaire de 46845

i can see this enchant is great for a warrior but how bout a retri paladin? or 35agi better because the armor given and crit increase?

Commentaire de 41850

Basically,

Marksman Hunters = Savagery
Survival Hunters = 35 Agi

Commentaire de 41983

can anyone tell me about how much all the mats will cost/plz?

Commentaire de 36183

It kinda disturbs me that my Mooncleaver will now look like it has Minor Beastslaying on it.

The blood-dripping part of the enchant glow is really nice, but the color is just too bright imho.

Commentaire de 34715

Seems good for a feral drood too

Commentaire de 31067

which should a feral druid choose? 35 agi or savagery?

Commentaire de Kasper

What's the best Enchant for a 39 Twink Arms Warrior?

Commentaire de ninjagud

How much does this enchant cost ?

Commentaire de EricWK

What's a fair price to charge for this enchant?

As far as I know, I'm the first Alliance character on my server to have it.

I don't want to over- or under-charge.

Commentaire de 10732

Well, 1x Large prismaticis about 20g on my server, and u need 4x for this one, and then u need 40x Arcane dust too, so i would think somewhere between 100g and 150g, or even up to 200g if you play on an crazy server.

Commentaire de 62368

I got this on my Polearm a few weeks ago. It didn't cost a dime to have it put on my blade. I've seen several people advertising it for no charge with your mats.

Commentaire de 75697

i have this on my lvl 39 warrior twink with Nightblade! awesome!!!:D xD thinking of getting mongoose what do u think of that?

Commentaire de 77310

which is better savagery or crusader before level 60?

Commentaire de 15507

it depends really, but personally, for my lvl 49 twink arms warrior, i am using savagery. The 70 ap is too much damage to pass up for any proc. if you have faster weapons though, i would go with crusader, because it will proc more as youll hit more, giving you a lot more survivability and burst damage.

Commentaire de 77570

what's better for a 29 twink druid, savagery or +35 agility?

Commentaire de 76735

None you can't use any of them on 29 characters. Requires lvl 35 weapons. (Unless you find one with 35 item lvl :/ )

Commentaire de 7577

Here's a video (not mine) of the dripping-blood effect.

Commentaire de 100168

Hunters and Savagery? Sure if you are in blue's. Any hunter will get +35 Agility if they know whats good for them. 35 AP, .88% crit, dodge etc, it stacks with buffs. Savagery does not stack, its just raw AP. 1 Agility > 2 AP

Commentaire de 123815

Alright. I'm a Enchancement shaman using a 2 hander. I'm not sure which to go for. I already have around 1.4k AP and I'm curious. Should I go ahead and get the 70 AP, the +35 Agility for more crit(which is around 27% unbuffed) Or go ahead and get the Executioner?

Commentaire de 97124

I have this on my https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=28774 along with 3 +16 ap gems and im loving every second of it

Commentaire de undeadzx

Agreed about the strength, but I think there is a better way to word it, maybe with some reasons as to why strength is better than attack power.

You should take the strength over straight attack power so that buffs, such as blessing of kings will give you an overall higher bonus. If you have 3x +8 strength gems in that item, it gives you an overall (as a warrior) 48 attack power. If you get a blessing of kings, you gain +10% of that bonus strength from the gems (24 + 2.4) = 26.4

26.4*2 = 52.8 extra attack power bonus from those gems with kings on you. While not a giant boost to attack power, with multiple items containing strength gems, it will add up.

Commentaire de 149838

hey i was just wondering for a ret pally and ms warr whats better mongoose or savagry. ty in advance. = )

Commentaire de 21986

When comparing this to +35 AGI it is also important to note that this enchant is about 1/3 the price of +35 AGI. +35 AGI may be better but that is a lot extra to pay for what may be a marginal improvement (if it's an improvement at all... it all depends on you gear). I would go with savagry as a hunter unless you have awesome gear and an awesome weapon to put AGI on.

Commentaire de 153659

Why do i never see twinks with this?, i am making a lvl 39 warrior twink, what would be better? this or crusader?

Commentaire de 154188

I myself as a feral dr00d would go for this instead of the 35 agi on my dps staff, ofc bc druids have a natural high crit due to the fact that we (often) use rogue gear with alot of agi on it for dps(PvE). so my crit is around 36% and tbh I (and other similar) should go for this enchant, simply bc crit isnt that imba when u got 1.0 speed on normal attacks, and dodge is useless when ur dps'ing.

note: on ur tanking staff 35 agi > all.

Commentaire de 103436

Please excuse my ignorance. But please explain to me what everyone is talking about "KINGS". I left my rogue to start a hunter and dont have a clue what kings is. I also havent decided on a enchant for my Marks hunter. This is looking nice for the price until my blue item axe gets replaced with a arena epic.

Exo..

Commentaire de 172885

Something to consider. If you put this on a Grand Marshal's Claymore, would it have blood dripping ALL along the blade, or what?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Haven't seen it yet on Dath'Remar server yet - but when it does, no doubt it'll contend with Lifestealer and Crusader as a top enchant to get for tanks.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Drops in Shattered Halls off the Champs...

I think we have been vary lucky but out of 3 runes we have gotten 2 of them for my 2 Fav Enchanters :)

The best part of taking your friends to get Enchants is they will hook you up afterward :)

Really the material cost is not bad... My friend gets 2-5 Arcane Dust from a L51-55 Green.. and Shards from 55+ Blues ...

Edited, Feb 12th 2007 8:03am by Iosif

Commentaire de Allakhazam

im making a 39 warrior twink, and i was planning on getting mongoose for my 2hander. looks awesome, and the extra speed and agi would help. then i saw this and i thought this might be a little better for the attack power. First question: what kind of glow is this? Second: should a 39 war twink be going for mongoose or savagery? or maybe i have it wrong..is there another enchant you think is better? plz help me on this, thx ahead of time

Commentaire de Allakhazam

As a sidenote, I put this on Demonslayer hoping AP would stack so when fighting demons it would total 169AP, but it doesn't appear to stack. Though damage against demons IS noticeably higher than non-demon, it seems like it should be WAY higher if the effects stacked. I get VERY good damage results against both demon and non-demon, though.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I can do this on stormrage, /w dock if intrested.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Does it also apply to RAP? And does it proc when using ranged weapons ?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Thats damn nice!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

I have a 45 Hunter and will be getting Stoneraven when I get to 47. My question is would Savagery be better or would 35 agi be better? I am a PVE player and I solo almost exclusively. Thanks in advance.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

shame. if your not up close, it looks like beastslaying.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

put this on grimlok's charge at 46, then again on the AV polearm (ice barbed spear). great for hunters.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

great chant, 35agi is great also for crit percentage and such.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

well i was talkign with somone with lkiek 375 enchanting and i asked if he had salvagry and i asked how much he wanted for it and he said well u can have it for free! boy it pwns for my lv 39 war twink..

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this enchant is permanent and give 70 attack to both melee and range and doesn't need to proc and also useless for tanking for 2h weapon not 1 unless the tank don't use shield

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Just had it enchanted on Terokk's Quill, paid 120 gold for it which seems a fair price considering its relative rarity. Its an awesome enchant for hunters adding 70 attackpower which equals 70 agility in terms of dps. However it has no glow at all! Not sure if this has anything to do with Terokk's Quill, or maybe blizzard will add the glow later like happened with the 2-handed agility enchant.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

any1 know.. i savargys 70 atakk power a "chance on hit" ?

Commentaire de Allakhazam

Because the mats for this are so easy to acquire this is a good enchant to put on a weapon you don't plan to use for very long, or as a temp enchant. Mongoose is the way to go in the long run, since crit is still king in PvP (for warriors, anyways). Great for a hunter enchant though.

Commentaire de Allakhazam

All I can say is DAM!

Commentaire de Allakhazam

this is ownage for warriors... and it looks sick lol

Commentaire de Thottbot

70 attack power = 5DPS if 14ap = 1DPS

What I'm missing is how is this enchant better than straight damage enchants like the Superior Impact (+9)?

I must be missing something.

Edit: NM, I see what I was missing now. The impact enchantment amount is divided by weapon speed. But still, on my Terokk's Quill that's only a 2 DPS difference for a substantial increase in component cost.

Commentaire de Thottbot

In Reply to the person a few comments above.

+9 Damage is stronger than this piece of crap for a Warrior...

70 AP is 31.5 dmg added to Bloodthirst right off the bat

where as 9 Dmg only adds 9 dmg.

70 AP = 5 Dps per second. So if you have a 3.00 Speed weapon for example.
It would be +15 Weapon dmg, which is better then +9 already.

More realistically most of the melee classes with slow 2 handers are generally around 3.7 or 3.8 speed.

3.7 Speed = +18.5 Dmg
3.8 Speed = +19 Dmg.

For warriors the AP also helps more with victory rush since thats based off AP as well.

In general Blizzard makes slightly better enchants usually cost insane amounts more. But this really isn't that bad of a price considering the amount of gold you can get in BC

Commentaire de Thottbot

Im not sure what to get for my 39 shaman twink... i heard mongoose was terible, and i know crusader is good.. i just dont know for a shaman, i kinda like 70+AP for shaman, nice and cheap too =P anyone have and suggestions which i should go for? like 20+str or like 35+ agi

Commentaire de Thottbot

i have SCA , speed 3,50 so Savagery would be nice but SCA has a 400 haste rating for 10 sec <chance on hit> and proks quite offten. This makes speed 2,54 for 10 sec. So is Savagery still a good enchant for me or should i choose something else ?

Akiros, Darkmoon Faire, Warrior arms/fury 41/20/0
Mortal Strike, Execute, Victory Rush

Commentaire de Thottbot

It is better to have 70 AP all the time then 120 AP from time to time.

Commentaire de Thottbot

There IS a glow from this enchant in patch 2.1! Havn't made a picture yet will do in a sec.

Picture uploaded should show up anytime soon ^_^

Commentaire de Thottbot

the new enchants seem to show up on weapons with effects already like sonic spear and i saw thunderfury with extra lightning from mongoose so yea

Commentaire de Thottbot

Ok, so everyone knows that 70ap = 5dps. Well done.

However, your Steady shot does 0.3 x Ap damage. So it adds 21 damage to a 2.8 speed bow. Or about 7.5 DPS. As your hasted speed will no doubt allow you a SS rotation of around 2 secs. This increases to 10.5 DPS. So now we are looking at 15 DPS in total for a Auto/Steady rotation.

If you assume you have 5% hit, so no misses, all crit goes to DPS. Increasing it by a further say 15%

Final number you are looking at this enchant giving you 15 x 1.15 = 17.25 DPS

If you are BM spec, the 70AP is also added to your pet attack power.

So a little more than 5Dps available here.

And its got a glow!

Cheers

Commentaire de Thottbot

...doesnt proc in feral.

Commentaire de Thottbot

is there a +ap enchan for 1 handed weps?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Ok b4 many ppl said that this enchant is useful only for hunbters and that warriors and paladins should get + 9 wep dmg.Now i am gonna wxplain why savagery is good for every1 ,even better (most of the times ) than +9 dmg.The +9damage gieves ofc a bonus of 9 damage on each hit.Savagery gievs +4.9 dps to your wepon.Now this is damage per second not per hit!So,as most 2hwep don' t have a speed lower than 3.00 Savagery procs the damage by an ammount = to 4.9x wepon speed,wich normally is higher than 9. Egsample :
If i use a wepon wich has 3.20 of speed then it adds the following bonus dmg per hit :
3.20x4.9=15,68wich is>than +9 dmg!
Hope every1 got this.

Commentaire de Thottbot

one of the screenshots is of moongoose lol

Commentaire de Thottbot

He probably put the screenshot of mongoose cuz when BC came out both mongoose and savagery had other glows and when the patch came to fix this, alot of ppl confused the 2 enchants for one another ;)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Is this good for a lvl 39 enhacement shamy? or what should i take in stead if this sucks?

Commentaire de Thottbot

just had to throw this in after all the previous comments. yall for got to mention the ret pallies, we rely on ap for our lack of armour. anything with ap, ret pallies can use, all i read about was hunters and druids. ive had this on every epic 2h since till lvl 70, and i like the fact that it is a constant enchant, not a proc. plus it looks pretty savage, and i would recommend it too any ret pally. dps is the name of the game for ret pallies. lots of other higher chants depend on proc rates, and when,( as a ret pally) you need to get rid of your target asap, you dont want to have to wait on a proc.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I got this put on a Sonic Spear and it only gave me 62 AP?

hmmmmmmmmmm?

Commentaire de Thottbot

This dropped in Shattered Halls for me last night.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Is there an AP enchant for 1H weapon?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Does item level mean like level u need to equip it or the actual item level like Glacial Stone: Item level 31

Commentaire de Thottbot

Would a Ret pally benefit more from +35 agi or savagery?

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have a hunting spear with this enchant. The polearm already had a green glow, but when I got the enchant I did not get the red glow on top of it. =[..

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Ench. d'arme 2M (Sauvagerie)

Ench. d'arme 2M (Sauvagerie)
5 s d'incantation

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Bâtonnet runique en adamantite

Composants:

Grand éclat prismatique (4), Poussière des arcanes (40)

Enchante de manière permanente une arme de mêlée à deux mains. Cette dernière ajoute 70 à la puissance d'attaque. Nécessite un objet de niveau 35 ou supérieur.

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	Grand éclat prismatique (4)
	Grand éclat prismatique (4)
	Petit éclat prismatique (12)
	Transformation de nexus (12)
	Cristal de nexus (12)
	Bris de vide (2)
	Cristal de vide (2)
	Poussière des arcanes (40)
	Poussière des arcanes (13)
	Cristal des arcanes (13)

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0 secondes

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Enchant Item: [Sauvagerie] (2667)
Multiplicateur JcJ : 1

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