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Commentaire de 7409

This is an excellent talent for tanking (and PvP), so long as you let people know you're using it. It's basically a free potion, though if your healers are not aware of when the buff is over, you'll be going down like a sweet muffin.

Commentaire de 7343

Not worth spending your talents point in Last stand if you are planning on getting a PVP build though.

Commentaire de 7686

I know of many tanks that have that skill and it does help in group pvp. It makes them last if they have a good healer in the group to keep others up while at the same time do damage.

Commentaire de 40551

I think this could appropriately be named an

"OH SHI-"

button.

Commentaire de 145511

Really fun to use if you are 1v1 back in arena, very nice boost to health, even though its better for PvE i think.

Commentaire de 171419

On consideration, it's a little odd that someone can make their "LAST. STAND." every eight minutes, but I guess warriors are just really, really emotional people.

Commentaire de 171419

Plus useful info: if WotLK-Alpha changes stay, LS cooldown is dropping to 6 minutes.

Please downrate this post into oblivion when/if this information becomes incorrect/trivial/outdated.

Commentaire de Ingolfur

When you use this, make sure you have more than 30% HP when it wears out, if you have less, it kills you, I have found that out through *Caugh* Exstensive testing *Caugh*.

Commentaire de 175895

This Ability has saved me countless times in 2v2 and I now consider is priceless, there is nothing like when you are fighting someone and they are about to down you and then BAM your right up to 30% and then you take them down.

I have a simple macro that I use for this that combo's it with my Battlemaster's Cruelty trinket (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=34163)

/use Battlemaster's Cruelty
/use Last Stand

Not hard to make at all, even if you don't know anything about macro's

Also aside from PvP this has saved me a few repair bills in my PvE time.

For me its a simple must have talent, if you haven't tried it in PvP I highly recommend you do.

~~Edited to add a link to my build https://www.wowhead.com/cata/talent=LV0xdAbqMhdioVZf0t~~

Commentaire de 171369

Ok i have a little trouble fully understanding this ability:
Lets presume we have 10k hp in all examples:

1) If i use it when i only have 2000 hp i get 3000 more (=5000). Lets say i wont get hurt at all and the buff expires, will i then go back to 2000? Thats how i figured it should be but HaKProduct's statement #1 says otherwise...

2) If i use it when i only have 2000 i get 3000 more (again 5000). If i then get hurt so i drop to 2500, do i go down to 2000 hp or to 1 single point of hp when it expires (Do i lose the bonus 500 only, or the whole "3000"?).

3) If i use it when i only have 2000 i get 3000 more (again 5000). If i then get hurt so i drop to 1500, do i stay at 1500 hp or go to 1 single point of hp when it expires (Do i lose nothing, cuz it went beyond the buff's bonus pool, or do i lose "3000"?).

4) If i use it at full hp i get 10+3k = 13k. If i get hurt down to
only 11k, do i drop down back to 10k or to 8k?

5) If i use it at full hp i get 10+3k = 13k. If i get hurt down to
only 11k, BUT then healed back to 12k, do i drop down back to 10k or to 9k?

Nothing of this has really been clarified to me. My assumption is that it does the "worse" things, it seems easier to understand. But I want facts, not just assumptions! Please explain thouroughly!

EIDT:
These examples are important to get a hold of because:
If it is the "better" ones that happen, then there is no need to heal a "Last Standing" warrior above his original max health, the max he had pre-LS. Because that health above his original max will be lost afterwards anyway...
If it is the "worse" ones that happen, heals are MORE important and you should always try to keep the warrior at his max hp (i mean the LS-max hp). The reason i think this is how it works, is because it makes the job, well not easier per se, but easier not having to watch out for unnecessary healing done by the healer (Just heal the crap out of the warrior!)

Commentaire de 451079

* 30% extra hp for 20seconds, 3minute cooldown.
* you gain this hp, and lose it(all of it) after 20seconds,
* if you had 1000hp, then used last stand to gain 300hp(1300hp), then dropped below 200hp the buff would finish with you at 1hp.
* if you were undead, and cast last stand before Cannibalize, then you would net more health.

It's quite obviously a last stand, you were about to die but give them one extra kick in the nuts,
and if you kill them and have no DOTs on you you can bandage your 1hp or cackle maniacally as you eat them ^_^(or some strudel :P)

Commentaire de kerrymayall

Tanking heroics, I've got this ability in a macro with Shield Wall. The health bonus from Last Stand gets me out of the danger zone, and the shield wall lets my healer easily top me up to full. It works well in heroics because you are never really going to require L.S or S.W more than once every 5 minutes, so there is less harm in blowing them both at once. A raid tank may want to keep them seperate for better cooldown management.

And yes it is important you let the healer know that you are being buffed by temporary health. It is a somewhat ignominious death when you die after a fight once this lapses. Somewhat funny too I guess.

Commentaire de 549001

I’m very confused. I’m *sure* it’s because *I’m* being dumb, but there seem to be a lot of conflicting signals here.

On the one hand, people talk about it temporarily increasing your maximum HP by 30%, *and then giving you 30% of your maximum health in new health!* For instance, if I had 10,000HP, and popped this, my maximum would be increased to 13,000HP… and then, completely seperately, it would *also* give me 3,000 health, thus (assuming I was at 1,000/10,000 before popping it) resulting in me being at 4,000/13,000HP.

Now, this is where I get confused: I see no reason why, when this expires, and you lose the extra 3,000-bonus-to-maximum-HP (thus, my maximum is now back to 10,000HP)… I see no reason why I should have any less than 4,000HP now. Right? Will I, or will I not, suddenly die when this expires? AFAICT, this expiring means nothing whatsoever except that your healers lose their nice extra buffer room.

This makes all those Last Stand / Survival Instincts macros I see completely bass-ackwards. Shouldn’t you instead be warning your healer *not* to top you off, because those 3,000HP at the top of your healthbar are going to disappear in a moment? (That is, let’s say I’m at 9,000/13,000HP… when the buff expires, I would be at 9,000/10,000HP; if the healer dropped a Greater Heal for 3,000HP, expecting to raise me from 9,000/13,000HP to 12,000/13,000HP, they’d *effectively* be raising me only to 10,000/10,000HP, a gain of 1,000 health for the cost of a Greater Heal. A huge waste, in other words.)

All that said, *if* I’m correct, here would be a much more accurate/pertinent macro:

#showtooltip
/cast Last Stand
/p LAST STAND: I’m gaining some extra buffer HP, but my maximum is going to drop in 19 seconds.
/in 16.5 /p Last Stand fading; my maximum is going to drop by 23% in 3 seconds. Don’t waste mana topping me off until it does.

(Macro assumes presence of the InDemand mod, which lets you do timed-announces like this. Quite indispensable.)

Commentaire de 739974

Last stand + Shield Wall + Berserker Rage (If not enraged) + Enraged regeneration = Win

A nice macro for last stand to help healers and or other party members

/Cast Last Stand
/Y LAST STAND ACTIVATED +30% MAX HEALTH

Commentaire de Antigroup

Some of the information here is misleading or simply scattered, so I'll try to make this one good summary.

When you use this, your max HP is increased by 30%, and you gain 30% of your old max HP. (Example: 10k max HP, you're at 1k, you use this, you are then at 4k/13k HP)

When it falls off, you lose 30% of your max HP, unless it would kill you, in which case you are left with 1 HP, and your max HP returns to normal.

This ability affects other abilities that are based on your max HP, such as Enraged Regeneration, Victory Rush, and Blood Craze.

It also has the same cooldown as Enraged Regeneration, so it would be good to use them together.

Commentaire de zaheer12a

Noticed today that it shares a CD with Cri de ralliement. Basically this means this talent is one point wasted, since Rallying Cry gives that health buff not only to you, but everybody in range.

Commentaire de Thottbot

Where and how do u get skills with the name talent. ?

Commentaire de Thottbot

You get them from the talent tree of course; You can only view them once you reach level 10, and get 1 per level. Some have additional restrictions. Click on the talent button at the bottom near you character screen button. Or press N (default key bindings)

Commentaire de Thottbot

you don't die, if you have less than 30% health you go down to 1 hp

Commentaire de Thottbot

yes

Commentaire de Thottbot

M8s i still don't understand how this talent works? can someone explain to me much better than the vage description?

Commentaire de Thottbot

This sounds to be something similar to a healing for warriors...

The only thing to do is to be careful and alawys to take a look at your life.

I have a warrior and i hate the fact that it was born to be the strongest in the game, but in duels is probably one of the unluckiest characters :(

Anyway, the warrior is PULP |o\''/o|

Commentaire de Thottbot

which is better, both sound like talents im just stuck on which one is more useful for pvp as well as pvp

can anyone help me out here?

Commentaire de Thottbot

between this, bloodthirst, a heroism card and the blood craze talent, a fury-protection warrior actually becomes pretty resilient. but then u may lose tactical mastery...

as 4 the piercing howl thing... i say piercing howl. they're both great talents but i prefer the howl thingie

Commentaire de Thottbot

This talent is got from the protection talent tree.

And Protection talent tree is NOT PvP, simply cause you mainly use def stance the whole time and you got no movement imparing effects...meaning that all classes will run away and shoot you, or (rogues) will run around backstabbing/ SSing.

While Fury talent tree is better for pvp, better damage, better skills ( and it's prefered in berserker stance).

Although, cause of MS arms talent tree becomes the best pvp skill some says. but hey, I waas thinking and the MS is only good vs these classes:

Priest
Druid
Shaman
Paladin

and useless vs:

Warlocks
Warriors
Rogues
Hunters
Mages

While you get blood craze in fury talent tree which is good vs all these classes.

I prefer dual wielding and Fury tree =)

and BTW, +5% crit chance from fury tree + 3% from berserker = 8%, and 5% which you get from start, that's 13% crit chance at level 30 allready! but don't forget to get gear that gives Agi, then you can get up to 17% crit chance at level 30-35 something, it's crazy =) and if you play horde you can ask for an agility totem from a shaman in your party, or a slow 2-h arms war can ask for WF totem, for better damage in that way, and also ask for a strength totem, no matter what tree.

Protection = PvE tanking, Sucks PvP
Fury = PvE damage, very good in PvP
Arms = PvE damage, good in PvP vs healers, otherwise nope.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I forgot to tell, if you're an alchemist you can make agi pots ( 25 agi) at about level 30, increases crit by 1-2 % more =)

And sorry for some bad spelling...you know how it's when you write fast =)

Commentaire de Thottbot

This ability if found from PROTECTION tree so it's for tanking. When healer doesn't have time for u or u have lost much health in really small time and no heal gets rdy untill u r dead. But still this can be more harmful than useful. If healer doesn't notice that u used Last Stand he might think that u r fine and heal some stupid aggro mage... until BANG u lose 30% of ur health + upcoming strike which doesn't look good. Once in raid I used this while tanking boss and killed it just after this. Then it's ressing time and healers turned to wake up deads.. I saw LS going down 3 sec before it broke up and managed to scream HEAL QUICK! in that time. ofc no1 didn't have instant heal rdy ^^

Commentaire de Thottbot

So what happens if you use it before fighting the boss, so you will have 130% of health to begin the fight, then if your health goes down to 50% when the LS expires, is the spell going to take any health away from the 50% health left?

Commentaire de Thottbot

This is a abbility i ALWAYS use during boss fights in MC,BWL,AQ40 and naxx.

I got 5919health unbuffed. if i use it i will have 7694 health for 20seconds. then when its over itt will fall down to 5919health again.

It heals you for 30% of you maximum health, in my case 1775health for 20seconds.

So if i am low on health. i use this attack, and my health will be boosted with 1775health for 20seconds so my healers can keep me up and i wont die.

In addition i use a macro so i use Last stand and Lifegiving Gem https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=38253 at the same time, to get extra health. so usually i wont die when i was supposed to ;)

Commentaire de Thottbot

Being a mage I can't say much besides read the description.
Obviously blizzard will not give you a talent to kill yourself with, I belive what they are saying is for 20 seconds you gain 30% of your HP back, this jumps into a new HP pool which cannot be lost on its own, basically if your not losing it by getting hit it will be "removed" after 20 seconds because it was not subtracted from your HP, thus if you're fighting a monster, pop it at 1% HP, go up to 31%, lose 25% of it and sit there at 6% your HP will suddenly drop BACK to 1% (concidering you havent regenerated anything yet).

I kept seeing the gem on my warriors so I read around and eventually reached this prot skill and got bored, and posted =P

Commentaire de Thottbot

When I hit next level 47 I'll be able to pick up last stand. I'm going to have a macro to explain I'll lose these HPs after 20 seconds, otherwise a PUG healer may think I have popped a potion. "Hey he has 1/3rd HP, I'll heal our mage." Otherwise 20 seconds later, I go from 900 hp to 1 HP, boss is down to 1%, I go down then wipefest b/c healer didn't know my HP were temporary.

/yell Activating my Last Stand. I'm going to lose these temporary 30% HPs in 20 seconds. ALL HEALS ON ME!
/cast Last Stand

Commentaire de Thottbot

Lvl 20-29...

Last Stand +
Shield Wall +
Retaliation.

3 Nice cd's. :)

Do up your shield block talents so it goes twice each ten rage.... Slap a pala, druid and lock in the group, and some thorium thorns on ya shield: Bingo.

12 dmg to attackers - Retribution Aura
15 dmg to attackers - Druid Thorns
10 dmg to attackers - Imp's Fire Shield
25 dmg when block occurs from Shield.

We did this to 4 warriors in a PvP set and watched as ally looked confused as to how they were dying without being directly hit.

Ding, reflect 62 dmg a block, 124dmg per Shield Block ;) Stack + strength on your gear, few extra pops of hp on head legs n chest, attack power from Blessing of might, and Battle Shout, n you're still swinging for 150dmg whilst your dmg mitigation is at 56% standard :P And you can slam your shield on casters to interupt spells :P Nifty lil trick.

Charge - hamstring - Bloodrage - Defensive - Shield Block :P Dead hunters / rogues / pala's... then you got you're cd's if you're against a twink Lol.

See an enemy twink pala / warrior / shaman ? ..

Charge - Defensive - Bloodrage + Yoink... Disarm ;) gives you a few free hits and gives you some rage to pop rend and a shield block for when he gets his weapon back, or a bash of the shield if he tries to heal. Lmao. Good for duels too :P Lmao. they stand n look confused as it says '' You must need a melee weapon '' Lmao.
If you get double teamed by warriors, or even tripled, steal a weopon, pop a block, n spam some improved revenge stuns whilst swapping targets Lol. =D Crazy tanking spinnyness worx a treat as your lock grinds them down with dots n a friendly druid pops a regrowth that outheals the dmg you're taking between each stun you give out, n they kill themselves from reflective dmg from buffs.

Who says Prot warriors are lame :P
Pala gives freedom blessing, druid follows with a lil regrowth, lock dots n fears,
Run that flag home boy :D

Commentaire de Thottbot

So.. I have a theory I need someone to test for me. It requires the Skull of Impending Doom (https://www.wowhead.com/cata/item=4984/crâne-de-malédiction-imminente) and a point into Last Stand. Now, while at full health, if you cast Last Stand and use the Skull do you still take the full 60% damage from the Skull's effect once LS wears off? Or do you only take 30% after LS wears off because the Skull dealt the damage to the extra HP granted by the LS buff?

Also I'd have to assume that Blood Craze (Fury talent) would regen more health if it proc'd while LS was active considering your maximum health would be 30% greater.

Combining the above two ideas would make for a very bad time for alot of classes (especially rogues) in duels and pvp vs. a Fury War

Commentaire de Thottbot

do i have to be in defensive stance to use this

Commentaire de Thottbot

Im a prot warrior, and a fellow guildie (also a prot warrior) says he thinks this move is totally pointless. i really would love to know why? this move is great! Im a post TBC player, so unlike some of the previous comments, ive way more health (100 shy of 12k) during raid buffed health this goes to something like 15k health, then commanding shout etc. then, in a tight spot, this give smme a possible health pool of 22k max ( including commanding shout) now, this may be only for 20 secs, but in those 20 secs i can absorb so much more damage than i could regularly, especially if im healed during it(which i usually am) so basically my arguemant is, why do some people think this is useless? besides that it prolongs my life anyway. i know my fellow guildie isnt the only one, theres a few warrs out there who think the same.

Commentaire de Thottbot

I have a warrior, level 38 atm, specced in Fury, but ofc im going to spec Prot when i get to 70 so i can tank and i am very curious about this ability.

Just a question:
If i have 10k/10k hp and pop this i suddenly have 13k/13k. The question i have is then: Isn't it pointless to get healed when this is up and u don't drop under 10k? Cuz i mean:
U start with 13k and fight down to lets say 11k/13k, then the buff goes off. Doesn't the hp get back to 10k/10k then?
If that's the case, then i wudn't use this unless i get low on hp so i won't get useless heals.
Does it work like that?

Commentaire de Thottbot

Just to clarify... some of the noobs above say it heals for 30% of your health... this is untrue. This ability gives you an aditional 30% health automaticly going adding it so if your low on health you don't need a heal in order to get it. Once the 20 seconds are up you loose the health but you cannot die from it the lowest you can go is to 1 health left.

Commentaire de Thottbot

ok, i have found a great way to use this spell. first, i made a macro that had:

/use Shadowmoon Insignia
/use Battlemaster's Determination
/use Bulwark of the Ancient Kings
/cast Last Stand

these items increase hp and then last stand increases that even more! great for warriors. When our mt when down in ZA, i had to get in there and pull argo fast, i started spammin and my hp was goin quick w/o healers b/c they were still tryin 2 see wha happened and switch onto me. i clicked it (icon name id God hehe :D) and i got lotsa hp to survive. i normally have 13594 hp unbuffed. then if i use God (macro) then my hp skyrockets to 24k. i got about 11k out of that. now, only lasts for 15 seconds (i know u noobz r gonna be all like "dude, get ur facts strait, last stand lasts for 20 seconds, not 15). well, guess what noobz, last stand isn't only thing used here, battlemaster and bulwark last 15 sec, so 15 seconds long w/ 11k increase then it is just shadowsong insignia and last stand, not as much. this macro is only an EMERGENCY button, not a use every 3 kills button. the bulwark has a 30 min cooldown so it is perfect for those tight spots when you are sooo close to downing and healers go oom. so, i hope this works and also, correct me if i'm wrong on any of this :)

Commentaire de Thottbot

warriors are the worst class 1v1 unless they use this =D

45/5/11 RAPES 1v1, and 2v2/ 3v3 if your going without a healer.

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