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Commentaire de Eberos

Un traité sur la stratégie peut s'obtenir sur certains boss des instances héroïques de Cataclysme. Il est l'un des objectifs de Écumeur de donjons de Sombrelune et a fortiori de Spoliateur de Sombrelune. N'oubliez pas de vérifier que vous avez le Guide pratique de Sombrelune dans votre inventaire : il est indispensable pour récupérer cet objet.

Voici une liste non exhaustive des lieux où il est possible d'obtenir ce traité.

- Trône des marées :
- Cité perdue des Tol'Vir : et
- Salles de l'origine :
- Grim'Batol : Général Umbriss
- Cavernes de Rochenoire : Seigneur ascendant Obsidius
- La fin des temps :
- Donjon d'Ombrecroc : Commandant Printeval
- Le coeur de Pierre : Peau-de-Pierre
- La cime du vortex : Grand vizir Ertan et Asaad
- Zul'Gurub :
- Zul'Aman : Zul'jin

Commentaire de danyeth

possible de le looter sur Murozond a la fin des temps (seulement depuis la 4.3.2 je crois)

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Commentaire de tmptfate

This is one of the items that your Guide pratique de Sombrelune can help you find. Guide pratique de Sombrelune is from Selina Dourman, who resides in the first tent on your left as you enter the Darkmoon Faire.

Turning in this item is part of 2 achievements: Écumeur de donjons de Sombrelune and Spoliateur de Sombrelune

The artifacts needed for Écumeur de donjons de Sombrelune are:

Collecting all the Darkmoon Faire Artifacts rewards Spoliateur de Sombrelune. The full list of Darkmoon Faire Artifacts is:

As stated by Blizzard (Source):

The Darkmoon Faire Field Guide

It’s your passport to riches, my friend. Y’see, we need a few things -- just some junk, nothing valuable to a big hero like you. We call ‘em Darkmoon Artifacts, and there’s all different kinds to be found all over Azeroth. The Darkmoon Field Guide helps you discover artifacts while you’re explorin’ dungeons, slayin’ monsters, and fightin’ in Battlegrounds. Without a guide, you’d never notice ‘em, and it’ll help keep you focused on the stuff we want. Whether you just reached level 10, or you’ve crushed the biggest baddies in the land, we need somethin’ from nearly everybody. You won’t have to go too far out of your way to get ‘em and each month you’ll get a new opportunity to seek out an Artifact for us. What do you get out of the deal? Don’t you worry, you’ll get your cut. When you bring a Darkmoon Artifact back to us, you’ll get valuable experience (it builds character, you know!), earn a better reputation, and possibly earn precious Darkmoon Faire Prize Tickets too!

Commentaire de 668582

Please keep in mind that the quest is not repeatable during one DMF festival. After you complete the quest you cannot get it for the second time, as it states when you use an item for the second time "You have already completed this quest". In other words - you can do the quest once every month.
Now, to all the naysayers, Blizzard has confirmed that these quests are to be repeated each month. Source
They have also stated that the quest drops that happen in the dungeons/raids/BG’s happen all the time, even if the faire isn’t in town. Source

Commentaire de Lolus

You can't get it from normals, so far I've never seen it on my realm, the only one I'm missing. Husam and Ulthok didn't drop it but I got 3 different drops from Azshara

Commentaire de NelleRavencrest

Known drops:

I suspect the drop rate could be as low as 5% on the bosses above. I farmed around 15 instances in total with main and alts before I saw the first drop. All those 15 instances included at least ONE of the previously confirmed drop spots. Feel free to add a reply if you find more places, so we can get a better picture of where it drop, and I will add it to the list !

Commentaire de sandyra

What is this? This item Un traité sur la stratégie starts the quest that you can turn in with the Darkmoon Faire whenever it is in town.

How do I get it? In order to be eligible to loot this, you must have the Guide pratique de Sombrelune in your ~~bags~~ inventory - which can be obtained in one of two ways:

Receive it as a reward from Gelvas Grimegate after completing The Darkmoon Faire for Alliance or The Darkmoon Faire for Horde.
Receive it from Selina Dourman just by talking to her, she stands at the first tent on the left-side of the entrance to the Darkmoon Faire.
Note: if you have The Darkmoon Faire quest in your quest log, Selina will not offer to give you the guide - you will either need to drop the quest and speak to her again or simply hand in at which point you get the guide anyway.

Where do I get it? This particular item ONLY drops from Cataclysm & Pandaren heroic 5-man dungeon bosses (it seems to drop from bosses with military titles). The drop rates are also very low -- though if you RNG graces you favorably you may see one dropped by any of the following (drop locations will be updated as they are confirmed) listed in alphabetical order by boss name:

~~Asaad -- Vortex Pinnacle~~ no longer listed in drop tables
-- L’Heure du Crépuscule
Ascendant Lord Obsidius -- Blackrock Caverns
--
--
Commander Springvale -- Shadowfang Keep
Commander Ulthok -- Throne of the Tides
~~Daakara -- Zul'Aman~~ no longer listed in drop tables
--
--
General Umbriss -- Grim Batol
Grand Vizier Ertan -- The Vortex Pinnacle
High Prophet Barim -- Lost City of Tol'vir
~~Jin'do the Godbreaker -- Zul'Gurub~~ no longer listed in drop tables
~~-- Trône des marées~~ never confirmed
~~-- Puits d’éternité~~ no longer listed in drop tables
~~-- La Fin des temps~~ no longer listed in drop tables
--
Rajh -- Halls of Origination
--
Slabhide -- The Stonecore
--

Why do I want it? There are several reasons that you may want this item:

Receive 15 Darkmoon Prize Tickets upon handing it in - these tickets allow you to purchase mounts, pets and other collectibles whenever the Darkmoon Faire is on.
Receive 250 reputation (or more depending on your racial/guild bonuses etc) with the Darkmoon Faire - great for anyone who is either a rep junkie or is working towards The Insane title awarded by the Tous des malades achievement.
Having completed the quest that this item starts will count towards the achievement Spoliateur de Sombrelune.
Gold gold GOLD - since this item isn't BoP (bind on pickup), it is tradable and sellable via the auction house. If you don't care about the above three points, then you can profiteer from someone who does!

What else do I need to know?

The quest can only be turned in once per Darkmoon Faire. You can certainly collect more of these, however if you've turned in for the current faire, you'll have to wait till it's next in town.
This seems to be the hardest of all the DMF quest items to obtain, primarily given that it only drops from end game heroic dungeons. But for the most part, just pray to the RNG gods and eventually they may answer you.
This item can be looted anytime - that is to say, the Darkmoon Faire does not have to be currently on in order for you to be able to find these puppies.

What other Darkmoon Faire drops are there?

Will frequently amend and extend this post as users request it or as I learn more.

Commentaire de Synrithh

Can everybody in the group loot one for themselves? Or can just 1 in the grp get it?

Commentaire de Vaugn

When this item drops, does it get just one player the token or does the entire party get one?

Commentaire de arkensis

A particular trend that I'm seeing regarding this item is that a lot of individuals are leaving their group following the deaths of the bosses that supposedly drop this item. Because the drop isn't guaranteed, and it generally drops from a non-final boss, it's causing a lot of groups to lose well-geared players who are running non-Hour of Twilight dungeons solely to obtain this.

Commentaire de Triforcia

A guildmate looted it from Daakara in Zul'Aman.

@ shadra
Yes you have to carry the Darkmoon Adventurer's Guide with you to be able to roll greed for it. My twink didn't have the guide when it dropped in Zul'aman and I coudln't roll greed.

Commentaire de Zappadohdah

Is it BoP? Going nuts queueing and thinking of getting my little tanky to work.

Commentaire de 690380

Just ran Deadmines non-heroic and Ripsnarl gave the ornate weapon - not this book.

Commentaire de Alfa

I am guessing this is from Heroic dungeons. Not sure whether the new ones drop it or not.

Tickets Per Faire

Dungeon: 40
Heroic Dungeon: 15
Raid: 10
Tradeskill quests (primary): 8
Tradeskill quests (secondary): 12
BGs: 15
Kill Quest: 10
Mini Games*: 35

Total Tickets per faire: 145

Notice is says dungeon 40? The dungeon ones give ten each and there are four of them. Then there is the Heroic Dungeon that gives 15 and I am sure its talking about this one being in heroic dungeons.

Source - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657441916?page=25#485

Commentaire de 371378

"Total Tickets per faire: 145" is not correct since you are able to win the darkmoon arena event every three hours. This chest contains 5 or 10 prizetokens as well.

Commentaire de 711058

that is incorrect. you do not have to have "entering the zone"... the guy before the portal to dmf will give you the guide aswell.

Commentaire de Zuleria

A lot of people do not have the dungeon journal and this enabled me to win 3 of these things. One has already sold for about 4k gold so be on the lookout for them for cheap or be sure to grab your dungeon journal.

Commentaire de 347714

You can buy Un traité sur la stratégie on the auction house, along with all the other objects required for Spoliateur de Sombrelune, if you're having trouble getting it to drop for you.

Buying Un traité sur la stratégie in particular may be popular, as it appears to have a very low drop rate from applicable bosses; moreover, the boss only drops one of the item, forcing everyone in the 5-man dungeon group who is eligible (i.e., those who have Guide pratique de Sombrelune) to roll on it to see who wins (unlike Runes de devin, which drops for everyone in the raid group). Alternatively, if you have Un traité sur la stratégie and don't want it, try putting it up on AH - you may fetch a pretty penny for it (which is also why everyone in your group will likely roll against you for it!)!

Bear in mind that Un traité sur la stratégie can be obtained anytime from the appropriate bosses, as long as you have Guide pratique de Sombrelune in your bags, even if Darkmoon Faire is not currently in town.

Commentaire de 938224

A Treatise on Strategy dropped from the last bosses in Zul'aman and Zul'gurub for me today. I rolled against one other person in both cases and won both rolls.

Commentaire de Ragall

Heroic Slabhide is pretty easy to solo as a hunter if you rather not farm Heroics for it.

The strat is the same as if you were on normal.

I prefer BM spec but it might be possible as Marks or Survival. I use a spirit beast for trash, specced defensively, and a turtle for Slabhide, also specced defensively. My gear level is currently 395 and made up of all PvE pieces.

1. When you first enter the instance, MD to you pet, send him onto Millhouse, nuke Millhouse to 50%, dismiss pet and FD.

2. Use camo to run to the third pack. I prefer to kill the third pack one mob at a time, dismissing my pet and FD after every kill.

3. Run back to the 2nd pack and nuke Millhouse again to make him run away and summon the first boss.

4. Use camo and Aspect of the Cheetah to run to Slabhide.

5. Slabhide is much easier to solo on Heroic than say KT, from Tempest Keep, but does require you to pay attention and minimize mistakes. Focus on keeping Mend Pet always up and move as soon as a Lava Fissure is cast under your feet. Avoid standing in front of Slabhide because his Sand Blast does hurt. Move behind the pillars when he casts Crystal Storm. Use your pet's cooldowns as necessary, he does hit for a noticeable some.

That's all there is to it. Normally it takes me around 10-12min a run, making this method for obtaining A Treatise on Strategy well worth my time.

Commentaire de Smurrfetteqt

I got mine today off the first boss in Vortex Pinnacle. First time I decided to Q, I chose VP because I read someone say 2 dropped in VP and all the others appeared to have 1.

I am quite over geared for VP, the other guys were in greens. /shoutouts to Tyinor for passing it over to me with out even asking!

Commentaire de Almidea

Oh my. Yes, I read 100% of all of this. UG!

I was researching if I needed the guide book on me to loot the Treatise but so many contradicting chat, I still don't know.
.....1)Can anyone confirm, do you need the guide to make Treatise drop?

.....2)Do you have to run these Heroics during the Dark Moon Faire or anytime?

I looked at my achievements (where I had all artifacts, except this one) as of yesterday. After the BLIZZ update and restart, I now have NO booksartifacts showing.
......3)Does anyone else have this issue? I'm submitting a report to Blizz now. Thanks.

***edit*** Blizz ticket, GM responded quickly...said it was a new issue and give them a few days to fix.

Commentaire de 740305

Patch 4.3.2 Hotfixes - February 2
Darkmoon Faire
Soothsayer's Runes and A Treatise on Strategy should now drop from all appropriate Heroic and raid bosses.
Murozond's Temporal Cache now has a chance to contain Monstrous Egg and A Treatise on Strategy.

Commentaire de Didikillyou

It appears to have boosted droprate since the 4.3.2.
I haven't seen any for months but since the patch atleast one drops everyday.

Commentaire de stuffeh

Updated for mop and it looks like there are no drops in . According to the wowhead, Un traité sur la stratégie drops in heroic mode, and the other items drop in normal modes off the respective boss. I.e.: Arme ornée drops in normal and not heroic.

I've compiled a easy to see table of where each item for Écumeur de donjons de Sombrelune can be found to get the most bang for your regular/heroic dungeon queues since Blizzard "fixed" the drops so that Foire de Sombrelune monthly quest items can only be looted in level appropriate dungeons. This is ordered in alphabetical order, with the instances that drops the most items for DMF items towards the top.

Notes:
I'm keeping the level 80 and 85 data for people who have not upgraded from the Battlechest and Cata to MoP.
If you find that a boss drops something not listed here. Leave a reply and I'll add it in, eventually.

Cataclysm

Le Cœur-de-Pierre

Le Nexus

Les salles de Pierre

L'Épuration de Stratholme

Le fort Pourpre

Mists of Pandaria	Cristal imprégné	Oeuf monstrueux	Grimoire mystérieux	Arme ornée	Un traité sur la stratégie


	Grande inquisitrice Blanchetête





Cristal imprégné	Oeuf monstrueux	Grimoire mystérieux	Arme ornée	Un traité sur la stratégie
Salles de l'Origine
L’Heure du Crépuscule			Asira Fauchelaube
Cité perdue des Tol'vir
Cavernes de Rochenoire		Karsh Plielacier	Seigneur ascendant Obsidius
La Fin des temps
Grim Batol		Maître-forge Throngus	Général Umbriss
Donjon d'Ombrecroc		Seigneur Godfrey	Commandant Printeval
La cime du Vortex	Asaad		Grand vizir Ertan
Trône des marées
Puits d’éternité
Les Mortemines		Amiral Grondéventre
		Peau-de-Pierre

Wrath of the Lich King	Cristal imprégné	Oeuf monstrueux	Grimoire mystérieux	Arme ornée
Ahn'kahet : l'Ancien royaume		Jedoga Cherchelombre	Prince Taldaram
Donjon de Drak'Tharon	Roi Dred	Novos l'Invocateur
Ormorok le Sculpte-arbre	Keristrasza
Azjol-Nérub	Anub'arak
Gundrak		Gal'darah
Les salles de Foudre	Loken
	Damoiselle de peine
Fosse de Saron	Seigneur du Fléau Tyrannus
	Salramm le Façonneur de chair
Cyanigosa
Cime d'Utgarde	Skadi le Brutal

Commentaire de jaxsonbateman

I think it's worth mentioning that despite its low drop rate, it's still only one per group. So you're fighting double RNG - the odds of actually having it drop, and the odds of beating the other likely 2-3 people in the group that have the dungeon journal (and are thus eligible to roll).

It's no wonder that this sells on the AH for 8-10k, given that it's impossible to get a mount in a single DMF without it (180 required, 175 from doing everything else).

It's also worth noting that as this gives 15 tickets, you'll be average out 180 tickets over 3 DMFs by turning it in once. Which is handy.

Commentaire de MMOSimca

Alright, I've looked through all the comments and I believe that A Treatise on Strategy was hotfixed farther than Blizzard admitted. I killed Benedictus in Hour of Twilight, and he dropped both items. However, only I (the tank) was able to roll on the Treatise, while four people were able to roll on the Grimoire. I have no possible explanation for this except that Blizzard must have changed how the Treatise drops (possibly an individual loot now?).

Here is the chat excerpt:
Archbishop Benedictus yells: I looked into the eyes of The Dragon, and despaired...
You receive currency: x77.
Your share of the loot is 1 Gold, 71 Silver, 47 Copper.
You have selected Greed for:
Greed Roll - 92 for by Pexil
You won:
You receive loot: .
You have selected Greed for:
Firymaniac passed on:
Hellshoot has selected Greed for:
Karel has selected Greed for:
Ongi has selected Greed for:
Greed Roll - 100 for by Karel
Greed Roll - 39 for by Ongi
Greed Roll - 3 for by Pexil
Greed Roll - 96 for by Hellshoot
Karel won:
Karel receives loot: .

As you can see, nothing we currently know about the Treatise can explain why I was the only one able to see and loot The Treatise on Strategy in this scenario. Given that several other comments on this page are mentioning "luckily I was the only one who could roll" as of recent, I suspect Blizzard omitted the full changes made to the Treatise. It is possible that I was a victim of a bizarre bug or that this is some new unannounced tank incentive, but I doubt it.

Commentaire de Keilden

So Lothar wrote this book, yet I got it from Mannoroth in Well of Eternity, several thousand years befor Lothar was born and the first time Mannoroth even was on Azeroth.

Commentaire de 912644

I have gotten this 3 times in the last week, running Random Cata Heroics.... interesting drop rate.... And I'm pretty sure that most people in the group have been rolling on it, so they've got the adventurer's guide.....

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